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RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 12:12 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This is why the NFL lost viewership. They allowed it to get political and it turned people off in huge numbers. This is exactly why ESPN ratings have plummeted..... they got political and fired the chink in the armour guy, since the. It's been a mess. You must hate the Olympics. And almost every stadium deal has become a political issue which means you also must hate the NFL. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 12:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Its taking a team sport and putting his own needs ahead of the team. This is political how? RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 12:38 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes I shouldn't have to tune into sports and get social justice warriors preaching. It was a silent protest. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 12:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It should not even be shown on tv. Censorship is a political issue, but keep preaching. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - StLucieBengal - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 02:08 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You must hate the Olympics. I have not liked when the olympics got political with countries not participating. Recently the burka nonsense has soured the summer olympics, which it a shame since it's my favorite. It's not too much to ask that we have something we can all talk about without someone getting offended or bothered. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - BmorePat87 - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 02:26 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I have not liked when the olympics got political with countries not participating. How do burkas "sour" the Olympics? RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - Dill - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 10:49 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: No. The national anthem has zero to do with politics. It's merely national pride. YYOOWW!!! You there!--stop forcing your personal political views on the rest us and up for the anthem!! ![]() People died for your right to freedom of expression--and here you go insulting them by exercising it. Stay home if you don't choose patriotism, but if you come to a game don't politicize patriotism with the wrong politics. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - GMDino - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 09:08 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You can be politically active and sill show some respect for the nation. (08-14-2017, 10:49 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: No. The national anthem has zero to do with politics. It's merely national pride. (08-14-2017, 12:12 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This is why the NFL lost viewership. They allowed it to get political and it turned people off in huge numbers. This is exactly why ESPN ratings have plummeted..... they got political and fired the chink in the armour guy, since the. It's been a mess. (08-14-2017, 12:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Its taking a team sport and putting his own needs ahead of the team. (08-14-2017, 12:38 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes I shouldn't have to tune into sports and get social justice warriors preaching. (08-14-2017, 12:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It should not even be shown on tv. (08-14-2017, 02:26 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I have not liked when the olympics got political with countries not participating. (08-14-2017, 02:26 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It's not too much to ask that we have something we can all talk about without someone getting offended or bothered. ![]() RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - StLucieBengal - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 02:31 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: How do burkas "sour" the Olympics? Couldn't watch any women's fencing without it being a topic on the broadcast. The worst fencer on the team got he most coverage and it had zero to do with her ability. She was terrible . We had a couple of fencers who had a real chance to compete against the Italians, French, and Russians. Would have been nice to learn more about them and their story. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - StLucieBengal - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 02:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: You should be charging me rent for all the space I am taking up in your head. I don't know who has a bigger infatuation with me between you and breech. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 02:26 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I have not liked when the olympics got political with countries not participating. Like you right now? RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 03:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You should be charging me rent for all the space I am taking up in your head. I don't know who has a bigger infatuation with me between you and breech. Actually, your infatuation with the idea others are infatuated with you is the biggest infatuation. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - BmorePat87 - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 03:02 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Couldn't watch any women's fencing without it being a topic on the broadcast. The worst fencer on the team got he most coverage and it had zero to do with her ability. She was terrible . So you take issue with the broadcasters not the burkas then. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - Nebuchadnezzar - 08-14-2017 People in this country have the right to not stand for the National Anthem or burn the American Flag or do whatever they want short of stepping on someone else's rights. Do I agree with them? No I don't but it's their right to do so. Does it anger me? Yes it does and by doing what they do turns me off to whatever cause they are protesting for. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - GMDino - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 03:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You should be charging me rent for all the space I am taking up in your head. I don't know who has a bigger infatuation with me between you and breech. I just like when people own their words. ![]() RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - SunsetBengal - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 09:46 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I thought the Steelers response last year was perfect. They stated they would all stand because not doing so would be disrespectful to Villenuava. This right here is Harrison being Harrison. I knew you would. I had you in mind, when I wrote that. ![]() RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - Millhouse - 08-14-2017 I look at standing for the flag or anthem as a way to believe that there is going to be a brighter future than what there is today. The history of our government and country has always evolved towards a better future for all, even though there were eras it took much longer for it to happen. Yes a person has the right to kneel or burn the flag. And by doing so I see someone that doesnt believe that there will be a better future. I know in their minds that may not be the case, as they are living in the moment with the dark history of racism seeded in their thoughts. Anyways my point is if they all stood in and let it be known that they are standing in the belief of a brighter future, wouldn't that send a stronger & more positive message? I just dont see how kneeling sends a positive message, but thats my opinion. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - GMDino - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 04:20 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I look at standing for the flag or anthem as a way to believe that there is going to be a brighter future than what there is today. The history of our government and country has always evolved towards a better future for all, even though there were eras it took much longer for it to happen. I think people do things "out of the ordinary" to draw attention to whatever it is they want attention drawn to. Kaepernick, for example, could have just held a press conference and said he has a real issue with what he perceives is police brutality toward minorities. It may have had the same overall effect. People would still say he is bringing "politics into football". But would they say he hates America? Yeah, they'd probably say that too. ![]() In the end he made a choice on how to get that attention to his cause. And I think he too wants a brighter future, and hopes there is one, but he wants to talk about the now and how we will get to the future too. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - masterpanthera_t - 08-14-2017 (08-14-2017, 04:20 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I look at standing for the flag or anthem as a way to believe that there is going to be a brighter future than what there is today. The history of our government and country has always evolved towards a better future for all, even though there were eras it took much longer for it to happen. I kind of vacillate between two positions. But I'm only going to focus on describing the perspectives of those who protest against the flag or anthem, without bringing my personal judgments into it. I can see your perspective, and how one could hold that view. The position of the other side, and this is just my understanding of it, without approval or disapproval, has been strongly shaped from a perception of "Everything we ever got, we got because of our blood sweat and tears, going against the norms and wrenching rightfully what's ours against a society hostile not only to our 'equality' but even to our existence." What you may see as things getting better, I believe the other side views as "we made our own futures better at the expense (unfairly) of our own blood sweat and tears" and "wasn't given, but fought against a society unwilling to grant this". As I continue, here, I will once again reiterate that I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with this view, only stating what I understand of it. What the larger society views as "this is un-American, uncivil, disrespect to authority, etc.", is perceived on the other side as "more authoritarian disposition from a hostile society which seeks to impose norms, which have never served 'our' community but furthered the oppression against 'us' ". In this context, standing for the flag, would merely be seen as an implicit acceptance of this "imposition of norms" at the expense of expressing your disagreements with the larger society, that you perceive as still not understanding of your suffering, but requiring behavior of you that only serve to further the interests of the larger society, against your expression of your "grievance". It's basically saying, "I'm not pretending that America stands for me, by standing for the flag, when I think that that is not the case and this is my tool for highlighting this 'perceived inequality' to the larger society" so that American can "actually be better for everyone". That is to say, this is their method to try to make the future truly better in their viewpoint. In some ways, going against the "norm" has always been the way major change has been enacted in society, whether we're talking about the Boston Tea Party or civil disobedience or women's suffrage or whatever. So, from the view of those who support not kneeling, they would likely see the ruffling of feathers as a great way to further a deeper discussion that they would like to bring to the fore. What I just wrote is in general true of most protests, but I can see how that view pervades the decision to not stand for the flag also. RE: Harrison, "They better be in a wheelchair" - GMDino - 08-14-2017 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/08/michael-bennett-national-anthem Quote:Michael Bennett knew that people would judge him. |