(03-28-2018, 04:09 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Still no solution.  What do you want done, and who do you want to do it?  

(03-28-2018, 03:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: A
Christian
nation,
heck
even
a
RATIONAL
nation,
would
look
at
a
man
who
did
two
tours
serving
his
country,
one
who
committed
a
crime
but
was
serving
his
punishment
and
bettering
himself,
and
made
him
a
citizen
of
the
country
he
defended. 

Clear?

(03-28-2018, 04:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll admit I'm Christian but I do clip the edges of my beard,

WTS, Leviticus is in the old testament, that's more of a Jewish/hebrew thing than a Christian one. But to the scripture I am against anyone mistreating a foreigner in our land, but if the law of man says they must go, then they must go and from what i understand we do so in a humane fashion.

Bottom line is this thread tries to create a correlation where none exists and is feeble in nature, but as long as you are willing to continue to bury yourself, I have no problem helping out with the dirt. 

(03-28-2018, 04:13 PM)GMDino Wrote:


The people who threw him out of the country should have done it.  Thanks.

(03-28-2018, 04:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll admit I'm Christian but I do clip the edges of my beard,

WTS, Leviticus is in the old testament, that's more of a Jewish/hebrew thing than a Christian one. But to the scripture I am against anyone mistreating a foreigner in our land, but if the law of man says they must go, then they must go and from what i understand we do so in a humane fashion.

Bottom line is this thread tries to create a correlation where none exists and is feeble in nature, but as long as you are willing to continue to bury yourself, I have no problem helping out with the dirt. 

Quote:Unlike the Old Testament, the New Testament says little about foreigners because Jesus destroyed the dividing wall between Jews and non-Jews. By his death on the Cross he made a new covenant from which no people on earth is excluded (Ephesians 2:11-19).


...


...if the Israelites had to take special care of the alien because of his particular circumstances, so we should show greater understanding and concern for the alien living in our midst. Jesus affirms this teaching of the law and brings out its full meaning in his parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37). He clearly links together these two commandments to love our neighbor and to love the alien. For the Jews, Samaritans were not only foreigners but long-standing enemies with whom they refused to have the least contact with (John 4:9). Now, Jesus not only calls the Samaritan the Jew’s neighbor, he also asks the teacher of the law to follow the Samaritan’s example: "Go", he says, "and do likewise."

(03-28-2018, 04:15 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I think he wants a Christian monarch.  Someone to rule as a Christian, and can change laws at will.  Now we just have to decide which denomination of Christianity.  

(03-28-2018, 04:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh!  So you want to ignore (some) the OT laws?

Okie dokie.

https://ism.intervarsity.org/resource/aliens-strangers-and-gospel




As I have said...let's stop talking about being a Christian nation and act like one.

(03-28-2018, 04:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Ohhh.  So you are mad at the few people who made the decision, and not the nation, and you wanted those few people not to be hypocrites although you have no idea who they are or what their beliefs are.

(03-28-2018, 04:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh!  So you want to ignore (some) the OT laws?

(03-28-2018, 04:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nope, but a dude named Jesus Christ told me that I can be forgiven if I don't follow all the laws of Moses to the letter. But that's more of a Christian thing. 

(03-28-2018, 04:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: Those people represent the people running the nation. I apologize for making "christians" feel uncomfortable about the difference between the way this county talks and acts...but my message stands.  We have continued to elect leaders that enable these things.  We as a NATION should be reacting more strongly to these things.

(03-28-2018, 04:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: You didn't read the rest of my response.

Teehee.

(03-28-2018, 04:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: Those people represent the people running the nation.  I apologize for making "christians" feel uncomfortable about the difference between the way this county talks and acts...but my message stands.  We have continued to elect leaders that enable these things.  We as a NATION should be reacting more strongly to these things.

(03-28-2018, 04:38 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure did, I just didn't think the parable of the Good Samaritan was germane to the situation at hand.  

(03-28-2018, 04:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The only people you have made feel uncomfortable in this thread are those that find comfort in logic. 

(03-28-2018, 04:42 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, to be fair, there are many frustrations in this forum for those that find comfort in logic.

(03-29-2018, 10:56 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: This is indicative of our attitude in this country of preferring punishment over treatment and not dealing with veteran issues like PTSD.

You have a man who served this adopted country in uniform and the result of that turned him to substance abuse. He admits to his crimes and seeks to better himself. For that he is deported.

(03-29-2018, 10:56 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: This is indicative of our attitude in this country of preferring punishment over treatment and not dealing with veteran issues like PTSD.

You have a man who served this adopted country in uniform and the result of that turned him to substance abuse. He admits to his crimes and seeks to better himself. For that he is deported.

(03-29-2018, 11:13 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I don't know if he was a substance abuser or not, but that's not what he got in trouble for.  He was delivering cocaine.  Maybe that was to feed a substance abuse problem?