(09-10-2015, 01:25 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: so they need a 3rd type of prison mens womens and in transition

(09-10-2015, 01:38 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I commend you for your effective use of camouflage because I don't see your point.  Physiologically, you have to breath or die.  Your genetic code contains the information to build your organ systems.  There aren't any decisions involved. Your need to breath is determined by your genetics.  So what the hell kind of obscure point are you failing to make yet again?  

(09-10-2015, 01:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure there is, your brain make the decision to breathe. No brain activity, no breathing. I can choose not to breathe, then I will pass out, and I will choose to breathe. You do realize that you are not aware of every decision your brain makes don't you?

(09-10-2015, 02:06 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote:

You make decision while you're passed out?  I was already aware of how little you understood about science, but this is comical.  Breathing is controlled by both the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.  You do not actively control the parasympathetic nervous system.  Your respiratory center is located in your brainstem.  You do not make conscious decisions to breath while unconscious with your brainstem.  I'll stop right there because you're already lost before I started.

Look up the definition of "decision" for christ sake.  We can add English to the list of crap you don't understand.  In order to make a decision you you need to be aware.  A reflex is not a decision.

(09-10-2015, 02:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course I make decisions when I am unconscious. Just because I am not conscious does not mean I do not have brain activity (you do realize this?). Have you ever heard the term "let me sleep on it"? Even though you are unconcious your brain is processing data and making conclusions. How do you think we wake up without external stimulous?
 
Tell you what: You continue to think same sex attraction is genetic like skin color and I’ll continue to think it is a process in the brain. One of us is bound to be right.
 
I’ll get to work on understanding science thing; you keep working on the insults.

(09-10-2015, 01:18 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Genetically, **** is off the menu for me.  You're the one who has to decide not to suck each and every one during a daily ongoing basis until you die.

(09-10-2015, 03:49 PM)djs7685 Wrote: I want to throw it out there that using a figurative expression is probably not the best idea when trying to make a serious point.

I'm just going to hope you were joking around with that line, but yeah, carry on...

Quote:Let Me Sleep On It: Creative Problem Solving Enhanced By REM Sleep
Date:June 9, 2009Source:University of California - San Diego

Summary:Research led by a leading expert on the positive benefits of napping suggests that rapid eye movement (REM) sleep enhances creative problem-solving. The findings may have important implications for how sleep, specifically REM sleep, fosters the formation of associative networks in the brain.

Research led by a leading expert on the positive benefits of napping at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine suggests that Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep enhances creative problem-solving. The findings may have important implications for how sleep, specifically REM sleep, fosters the formation of associative networks in the brain.

The study by Sara Mednick, PhD, assistant professor of psychiatry at UC San Diego and the VA San Diego Healthcare System, and first author Denise Cai, graduate student in the UC San Diego Department of Psychology, shows that REM directly enhances creative processing more than any other sleep or wake state. Their findings will be published in the June 8th online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"We found that – for creative problems that you've already been working on – the passage of time is enough to find solutions," said Mednick. "However, for new problems, only REM sleep enhances creativity."

Mednick added that it appears REM sleep helps achieve such solutions by stimulating associative networks, allowing the brain to make new and useful associations between unrelated ideas. Importantly, the study showed that these improvements are not due to selective memory enhancements.

A critical issue in sleep and cognition is whether improvements in behavioral performance are the result of sleep-specific enhancement or simply reduction of interference – since experiences while awake have been shown to interfere with memory consolidation. The researchers controlled for such interference effects by comparing sleep periods to quiet rest periods without any verbal input.

While evidence for the role of sleep in creative problem-solving has been looked at by prior research, underlying mechanisms such as different stages of sleep had not been explored. Using a creativity task called a Remote Associates Test (RAT), study participants were shown multiple groups of three words (for example: cookie, heart, sixteen) and asked to find a fourth word that can be associated to all three words (sweet, in this instance). Participants were tested in the morning, and again in the afternoon, after either a nap with REM sleep, one without REM or a quiet rest period. The researchers manipulated various conditions of prior exposure to elements of the creative problem, and controlled for memory.

"Participants grouped by REM sleep, non-REM sleep and quiet rest were indistinguishable on measures of memory," said Cai. "Although the quiet rest and non-REM sleep groups received the same prior exposure to the task, they displayed no improvement on the RAT test. Strikingly, however, the REM sleep group improved by almost 40 percent over their morning performances."
The authors hypothesize that the formation of associative networks from previously unassociated information in the brain, leading to creative problem-solving, is facilitated by changes to neurotransmitter systems during REM sleep.

Additional contributors to the study include Sarnoff A. Mednick, University of Southern California, Department of Psychology; Elizabeth M. Harrison, UCSD Department of Psychology; and Jennifer Kanady, UCSD Department of Psychiatry and Veterans Affairs San Diego Healthcare System, Research Service. Funding was provided by the National Institutes of Health.

(09-10-2015, 02:06 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote:

You make decision while you're passed out?  I was already aware of how little you understood about science, but this is comical.  Breathing is controlled by both the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.  You do not actively control the parasympathetic nervous system.  Your respiratory center is located in your brainstem.  You do not make conscious decisions to breath while unconscious with your brainstem.  I'll stop right there because you're already lost before I started.

Look up the definition of "decision" for christ sake.  We can add English to the list of crap you don't understand.  In order to make a decision you you need to be aware.  A reflex is not a decision.

(09-10-2015, 04:16 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: What's hilarious is that he just argued why sexual orientation is not a choice with his example. Much like breathing, it's something encoded in us that we don't make an active decision everytime to do. Everytime I see a person, I don't make an active decision to be attracted to them based on their sex. Likewise, I don't make a decision to breathe everytime my body does that for me.

(09-10-2015, 02:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I’ll get to work on understanding science thing; you keep working on the insults.

(09-10-2015, 04:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who has said "active decision" besides you?

Just like Breech, you can be on the "it's genetic just like skin color" side and I'll be on the a process in the brain side. Hell you guys can even laugh at those that think attraction is a process of the brain; at least you'll seem smart to each other.

(09-10-2015, 04:51 PM)GMDino Wrote: I got nothing

(09-10-2015, 04:16 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: What's hilarious is that he just argued why sexual orientation is not a choice with his example. Much like breathing, it's something encoded in us that we don't make an active decision everytime to do. Everytime I see a person, I don't make an active decision to be attracted to them based on their sex. Likewise, I don't make a decision to breathe everytime my body does that for me.

(09-10-2015, 04:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who has said "active decision" besides you?

Just like Breech, you can be on the "it's genetic just like skin color" side and I'll be on the a process in the brain side. Hell you guys can even laugh at those that think attraction is a process of the brain; at least you'll seem smart to each other.

(09-10-2015, 04:57 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I've never understood this whole debate of genetics vs preference. Who cares? 


When I wake up in the morning...I'm craving eggs, coffee and vagina...though not necessarily in that order. What does it matter if I'm craving vagina because of my genetic wiring or because I just prefer it?

The same goes for those who enjoy c--k, or both, or neither. Why in the hell does anyone care? 

(09-10-2015, 04:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nothing insulting about that. They will at least seem smart to each other, because they are like-minded. Hell, there might even be a couple more on-lookers that think they seem smart as well.

(09-10-2015, 05:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Certainly no insult there at all.  

(09-10-2015, 05:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I suppose the short answer is Science.

In short brother, I just don't get why people spend so much time and effort concerning themselves with what other people decide to do with their rods and holes?

(09-10-2015, 04:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who has said "active decision" besides you?

Just like Breech, you can be on the "it's genetic just like skin color" side and I'll be on the a process in the brain side. Hell you guys can even laugh at those that think attraction is a process of the brain; at least you'll seem smart to each other.

(09-10-2015, 04:57 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I've never understood this whole debate of genetics vs preference. Who cares? 


When I wake up in the morning...I'm craving eggs, coffee and vagina...though not necessarily in that order. What does it matter if I'm craving vagina because of my genetic wiring or because I just prefer it?

The same goes for those who enjoy c--k, or both, or neither. Why in the hell does anyone care? 

(09-10-2015, 05:24 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: In short brother, I just don't get why people spend so much time and effort concerning themselves with what other people decide to do with their rods and holes?

(09-10-2015, 05:34 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Those who wish to deny rights to others based on sexual orientation suggest that it's a choice so it's not deserving of protection.