(12-19-2019, 03:08 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: It's interesting that the original poster brings up Tua and his movement in the pocket.  Burrow does this better than anyone I've ever seen in college football - including Tua.

I was a little lukewarm on Tua coming into this year due to his size.  I like him, but I've had reservations about him.  The ankle injury really made me wonder and follow that up with the hip and he's starting to look fairly fragile.

I just love what Burrow brings to the table mentally.  It's been ages since we've seen a guy that has his mental ability to read defenses and more importantly get the ball to the correct guy.  I'm a little worried about his arm strength, but that's it.

Quote:2. JOE BURROW, LSU TIGERS
Year: Senior

There's no shame in finishing runner-up to the golden boy from Clemson. Burrow doesn't have a big arm like Lawrence, but he has accuracy the likes of which we've never seen. He has been accurate on 72.3% of his passes targeted beyond the line of scrimmage this season. Second place is 65.8%.

Bowl matchup: Oklahoma in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

(12-18-2019, 09:14 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Dont blow me up over this, but honestly I like what I see from Tua more than Burrow. I see a little bit of Mahomes in Tua with the way he moves in the pocket. Tua makes some great throws. I'd figure out where he's gonna fall to and trade back out of the 1st pick.

(12-19-2019, 03:59 PM)Synric Wrote: https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-ranking-all-80-college-football-bowl-quarterbacks-by-pro-potential


Of draftable QBs this year its 1. Burrow 2. Herbert 3. Fromm 4. Love 5. Eason 6. Newman 7. Hurts

I agree Jalen Hurts should be that low and Tua Tagovailoa isn't on the list for some odd reason.

(12-19-2019, 03:08 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: It's interesting that the original poster brings up Tua and his movement in the pocket.  Burrow does this better than anyone I've ever seen in college football - including Tua.

I was a little lukewarm on Tua coming into this year due to his size.  I like him, but I've had reservations about him.  The ankle injury really made me wonder and follow that up with the hip and he's starting to look fairly fragile.

I just love what Burrow brings to the table mentally.  It's been ages since we've seen a guy that has his mental ability to read defenses and more importantly get the ball to the correct guy.  I'm a little worried about his arm strength, but that's it.

(12-19-2019, 09:03 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Tua is a better more accurate passer than Burrow and he moves better in the pocket than Burrow. Dont let the media hype around Burrow persuade you. Tua is the next Steve Young.

(12-19-2019, 04:20 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: There's no reason for anyone to "blow you up". If Tua were healthy, he would be the number one pick. That doesn't detract from what Joe has accomplished this season.
Tua has Joe beat in nearly every category. Ts, they both are very good QBs.

(12-19-2019, 09:03 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Tua is a better more accurate passer than Burrow and he moves better in the pocket than Burrow. Dont let the media hype around Burrow persuade you. Tua is the next Steve Young.

(12-19-2019, 09:18 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Tim couch set records in college too. Don't let stats fool you.

(12-19-2019, 09:03 PM)Nati#1 Wrote: Tua is a better more accurate passer than Burrow and he moves better in the pocket than Burrow. Dont let the media hype around Burrow persuade you. Tua is the next Steve Young.

(12-19-2019, 09:24 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No he’s not.

(12-19-2019, 09:25 PM)Synric Wrote: Or we could you know look at facts. 

Joe Burrow has set accuracy records at all levels of the field. He is also the best QB under pressure while being very accurate in those situations.

So you're statements Tua Tagovailoa is more accurate and better in the pocket is wrong according to factual evidence.

(12-19-2019, 09:09 PM)Synric Wrote: 1. Joe Burrow set the SEC record for accuracy.
2. Joe Burrow is PFFs highest graded QB under pressure...ever.

(12-19-2019, 09:25 PM)Synric Wrote: Or we could you know look at facts. 

Joe Burrow has set accuracy records at all levels of the field. He is also the best QB under pressure while being very accurate in those situations.

So you're statements Tua Tagovailoa is more accurate and better in the pocket is wrong according to factual evidence.

(12-19-2019, 09:34 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh yeah ?

Tua 71.4% on 252 attempts

Burrow 77.9% on 439 attempts

So nearly 200 more attempts and 6% higher = less accurate to you ? 

(12-19-2019, 09:38 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Don't let the facts get in the way when your mind is made up. 

(12-18-2019, 11:53 PM)TheBengalsMind Wrote: I voted Joe Burrow, I would have regardless of the injury.

But now it's concrete.

Tua is good though, real good.

However, we have to remember that this is the same injury that destroyed Bo Jackson's career.

Only Tua's is worse.

Bo suffered a Hip Subluxation, just fancy words for a partial hip dislocation.

Tua had a true hip dislocation and fracture on top of it.

Now, Bo's injury caused AVN which is, death of bone/cartilage and loss of blood.

If early indications are correct it looks like they saved him from that, but be aware it can take a year to truly know that or not.

So come draft time your making a 50/50 guess if he'll even be able to take another snap possibly.

As valuable as 1st rounders are, I don't see anybody taking him in the 1st without a complete and thorough check of that hip, that says he'll be able to 100% percent play in the future and take the kind of abuse that he'd take.

I feel bad for Tua, because he did everything right.

It's a real reminder that life isn't always fair or easy.