(02-05-2016, 06:20 PM)Synric Wrote: The Bengals also have a very similar player to Marvin Jones in James Wright. Size speed athleticism explosion...really wish he hadnt been injured two years in a row. If Marvin Jones isn't back next year Wright really has a chance to show what he's got even over a more proven vet like Sanu ( if he's back) because of his measurables.

(02-05-2016, 06:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I realize this is hardcore message board bias, but I feel like going into 2015 when we were getting Jones back it was like "This dude is ESSENTIAL!!! YAY!!!" and now going into 2016 (possibly) without him it's like "Meh, let him go.  Some guy on our bench is as good or better than him.  Big deal.  AJ Green was the reason he was good." and so on.

Oh the fun of fandom!

(02-05-2016, 06:44 PM)jowczarski Wrote: Good point Leonard Leap - I noticed that, too. Marvin is a very smart dude. There are reasons he's doing what he's doing with the national media out there.

RoyleRedLegs: I think it's a combo. I think he wants $7 million - but he also wants the chance to get AJ Green-type targets. So, it kind of goes hand-in-hand in a way. I think he'll stay here if the market totally deflates on him, but that seems so unlikely since, basically, he's the only guy you could look at and say, maybe he could catch 80. Reuben Randle probably has a stronger total resume, but Jones is exciting. No doubt about it.

MCc: Iloka was not happy he wasn't extended before the season. And I think he was ready to go when the season ended. That said, the door was always open (I've written / tweeted that a few times this year) and it remains open. Make no mistake - if he gets the money he wants elsewhere, he's gone.

For all these guys - it's all about leverage and the Bengals do want ALL of their FAs back and will present offers. These guys won't just push that off the table just because. But the Bengals always get their guys at THEIR number, and in the case of Jones and Iloka -- they desperately want THEIR number. Those just might not align like it did for Dalton and Green and Dunlap and Atkins ...

(02-05-2016, 06:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Neither Jones nor Wright have good "measurable" speed.

Jones plays much faster than his 40 time, but Wright has shown nothing.

(02-05-2016, 06:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Neither Jones nor Wright have good "measurable" speed.

Jones plays much faster than his 40 time, but Wright has shown nothing.

(02-05-2016, 03:29 PM)Benton Wrote: I think the concern would be $7m for our backup #1. If Green goes down, Jones moves up substantially in targets.

That said, I'll be surprised if we go $7. We'll offer $5, he'll go to Cleveland or the Raiders and we'll take a WR in the first couple rounds.

(02-05-2016, 08:11 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Like having Marvin in stripes but I believe he will get a better offer elsewhere. I think the FO will resign Sanu to a reasonable contract and draft a WR.

(02-05-2016, 02:38 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: Julio Jones and Antonio Brown had more receiving yards this year than Jones has had in his 4 years combined.  He did have 10 TD's in 2013 though and he'll use that as his main bargaining chip, which isn't worth much in my opinion as he only had 4 this year.

Mike Brown lowballs ($4-5 million)  him I think and I don't blame him really.

(02-05-2016, 01:50 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Marvin Jones wants $7m+ per year..

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/2/5/10922544/marvin-jones-not-offering-bengals-hometown-discount-wants-7-million

Discuss.

(02-05-2016, 06:47 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I feel like that the Bengals will offer Marvin Jones similar to what Emmanuel Sanders signed in Denver....3 years, $15 million. Sanders was brought in to play opposite of DT and they also had Julius Thomas, who just put up 788/12 the previous year. So Sanders was supposed to be a great 3rd option or emerge as the second option (which happened).

Given the salary cap increase, I could see the Bengals going $6 mill per year, but not $7 million. I'll guess 3 years, $17 million ($5.66 mill avg). If Jones gets offered $6+ million per year somewhere, I think he leaves the Bengals. He seems to want the opportunity to emerge as a WR1.

The Rams need a WR1. The Lions might go after him with Calvin retiring. The Browns are high up with the relationship to Hue but Travis Benjamin is reportedly about to sign an extension, so that might make it a bit less of a chance.
Do the Ravens go after him with Steve Smith likely just having one more year and Breshad Perriman a clear unknown that was hurt all year?
Do the Panthers add him to bolster their WR corp? Kelvin Benjamin should be back and Ted Ginn played well above expectations, but MLJ could really boost their passing game. Greg Olsen was by far their biggest pass catching threat this year.

(02-05-2016, 04:43 PM)Benton Wrote: I'm not disagreeing overall, but one year putting up numbers like a #1 while being a #1 doesn't mean as much four years later. Crabtree isn't a bad receiver, but he's not going to put up numbers like that again. Jones, while he may not either, has a better chance.

And to clarify, I don't see the Raiders paying him $7 million (but I could see them offering more than us, I think he'll go for around $6 and we'll offer around $5). I was commenting that I can see them being interested in Jones as he's got more potential than Crabtree. Honestly, if you were building around a young QB, would you sign Crabtree or Jones?

(02-05-2016, 03:29 PM)Benton Wrote: I think the concern would be $7m for our backup #1. If Green goes down, Jones moves up substantially in targets.

That said, I'll be surprised if we go $7. We'll offer $5, he'll go to Cleveland or the Raiders and we'll take a WR in the first couple rounds.