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RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - BmorePat87 - 06-12-2015 http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/19/martin-frost/did-gov-rick-perry-change-position-same-sex-marria/ Rick Perry has been consistent in his support of a federal Constitutional amendment to restrict marriage, but he also has held that he believes it's up to the states currently as the 10th amendment gives them jurisdiction over marriage. He fears activist judges will force it on states due to them correctly interpreting the 14th amendment... So, yes, Rick Perry supports using the government to enforce a definition of marriage consistent with his religious beliefs. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - Belsnickel - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 02:59 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Apparently they didn't mean "property" the way they mean it now or something. Didn't you know that with the coming of Jesus there was a new covenant crafted with the followers of Yahweh? And besides, those rules only applied to the people of Israel. That's why we see so much emphasis on the Ten Commandments and other parts of the Mitzvot by Christianity today. Oh, wait... I say this as someone that believes in the teachings of Jesus. I just can't handle the molestation of those teachings by man within organized religion. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 02:59 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Apparently they didn't mean "property" the way they mean it now or something. Are you down with OPP? RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - Bengalholic - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 02:59 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Apparently they didn't mean "property" the way they mean it now or something. Yeah, I've never understood when people try so hard to place caveats on "owning people". I mean WTF? In what situation is having ownership rights over another human being...a moral thing? I'm all for people believing in whatever they choose. But, those people, in the year 2015, who still think it was OK to ever own other human beings, in any context...creep me the f--k out! ![]() RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - SteelCitySouth - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 03:51 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yeah, I've never understood when people try so hard to place caveats on "owning people". I mean WTF? In what situation is having ownership rights over another human being...a moral thing? (06-12-2015, 03:53 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yeah, I've never understood when people try so hard to place caveats on "owning people". I mean WTF? In what situation is having ownership rights over another human being...a moral thing? It was a good post. But I don't think it was so good that it needed to be posted twice. You must be a noob. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - bfine32 - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 02:47 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1: (06-12-2015, 02:59 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Apparently they didn't mean "property" the way they mean it now or something. Not sure you are adding anything new to what I stated; many sold themselves into slavery in historical times (This is a historical fact, not a biblical one, and certainly not a Christian one). Do you think it was wrong to establish rules for such actions? It amazes me the things people try to suggest in order to comdemn someone else's religion. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Not sure you are adding anything new to what I stated; many sold themselves into slavery in historical times (This is a historical fact, not a biblical one, and certainly not a Christian one). Do you think it was wrong to establish rules for such actions? Yeah. I like the rule that outlawed the practice. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - Bengalholic - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 03:57 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: It was a good post. But I don't think it was so good that it needed to be posted twice. Yeah, it's a wonder it didn't post 5 or 6 times. ![]() ![]() RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - bfine32 - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:09 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Yeah. I like the rule that outlawed the practice. So you like a rule that outlaws folks doing what they want? I like the rule that abolished making slaves of men and women that did not want to do so freely. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So you like a rule that outlaws folks doing what they want? Yeah. I'm sure people "freely" decided to put themselves in situations to be beaten (as long as they got up after a couple days). Makes perfect sense. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - Bengalholic - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Not sure you are adding anything new to what I stated; many sold themselves into slavery in historical times (This is a historical fact, not a biblical one, and certainly not a Christian one). Do you think it was wrong to establish rules for such actions? It's been awhile since my Sunday school days, but didn't God give specific permission/instruction on owning foreign slaves? You know, like how and where to buy them from, that you can pass them down to your kids, and that they can be your property for life. I can't remember the specific passage, but someone else probably knows. That seems pretty "biblical"...with the whole God telling people how to own other people and all. ![]() RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - bfine32 - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:38 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Yeah. I'm sure people "freely" decided to put themselves in situations to be beaten (as long as they got up after a couple days). (06-12-2015, 04:45 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: It's been awhile since my Sunday school days, but didn't God give specific permission/instruction on owning foreign slaves? You know, like how and where to buy them from, that you can pass them down to your kids, and that they can be your property for life. I can't remember the specific passage, but someone else probably knows. I think the issue is taking thing that happened 4,000-6,000 years ago and applying them to today's society. There are a number of practices that can be found throughout history that are today considered barbaric or worse. Who knows 6,000 years from now there will be a couple folks pointing finger at a Christian and stating "see what your god allowed back then, folks actually had to perform manual labor while their owner determined how much their service was worth." Not sure how practices that happened in historic times can be used as ammunition to slight modern day Christianity; but it never stops folks from trying. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I think the issue is taking thing that happened 4,000-6,000 years ago and applying them to today's society. There are a number of practices that can be found throughout history that are today considered barbaric or worse.Ironically, you seem to be arguing for subjective morality. Christians tend to believe in an "objective morality" handed down to them by God himself. Consequently, unless God changed his minds regarding the issue of slavery, it is irrelevant the time period. He is supposedly timeless. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:45 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: It's been awhile since my Sunday school days, but didn't God give specific permission/instruction on owning foreign slaves? You know, like how and where to buy them from, that you can pass them down to your kids, and that they can be your property for life. I can't remember the specific passage, but someone else probably knows. Quote:Leviticus 25:44-46King James Version (KJV) So in those days, children were able to enter into lifetime servitude contracts "freely". And even the families they "begat" that weren't born yet? Interesting. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 Quote:but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. It appears God himself put restrictions on who could "freely" sale themselves into slavery and who couldn't. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - bfine32 - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 05:06 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Ironically, you seem to be arguing for subjective morality. Perhaps you are confusing Jews with Christians. As a Baptist I believe in the resurrection and we are not bound by the law of Moses. But please feel free to continue to tell what I believe. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 05:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Perhaps you are confusing Jews with Christians. As a Baptist I believe in the resurrection and we are not bound by the law of Moses. But please feel free to continue to tell what I believe. Jesus himself was a Jew. Besides, he is supposedly quoted as saying the following: Quote:Matthew 5:17-18King James Version (KJV) RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - bfine32 - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 06:10 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Jesus himself was a Jew. Besides, he is supposedly quoted as saying the following: Exactly. Now read your quote again and focus on the fulfillment parts. Jesus fulfilled the prophecy. RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 04:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I think the issue is taking thing that happened 4,000-6,000 years ago and applying them to today's society. There are a number of practices that can be found throughout history that are today considered barbaric or worse. If you throw a sack full of kittens into the ocean you can go to jail. God threw the whole planet into the ocean except for one arc. Could have just snapped His fingers and poof...everyone would cease to exist, but He thought drowning everyone and everything was the better option. He let Satan murder Job's children among other things over a wager. He commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac to prove his obedience. Even though as an omniscient God he knew Abrahamwould obey thus obviating any need to test Abraham and said, "Do not do anything to him. Now I know. . ." "Now"? RE: Christian Couple Vows To Get Divorced If Gay Marriage Is Legalized - WhoDeyWho - 06-12-2015 (06-12-2015, 06:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Exactly. Now read your quote again and focus on the fulfillment parts. Heaven and earth haven't passed and he hasn't come back yet so all doesn't seem to have been fulfilled. Why be that dramatic if he only meant literally less than a year? |