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RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 07:22 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: false equivalence Do you care to explain why? RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Johnny Cupcakes - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 10:16 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Hey don't blame me; blame the guy that got beat up by 40 people. Typical conservative victim blaming post. ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - BmorePat87 - 07-07-2015 Out of curiosity, how many rap concerts occur every year? I'm going to save you the trouble of looking that up and answer the title of this thread with a "lol? No." RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - BmorePat87 - 07-07-2015 I have a question. Are we discussing banning rap concerts because it was racial violence or because it was violence? Follow up: how is the rap involved in this? RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 11:43 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Out of curiosity, how many rap concerts occur every year? I didn't even use the "lol" lol RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 10:24 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Do you care to explain why? Hip hop music is a form of entertainment and has never been a symbol for anything. It's a false equivalence because they only have insignificantly few things in common, I mean you have to get into the minutia to find them. Look up the definition of false equivalence. This image is much more equivalent. ![]() I'm going out on a limb here when I say that I doubt you can find one of these flying at a state house, but I am open to you proving me wrong about it. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 11:43 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Out of curiosity, how many rap concerts occur every year? I agree it would be ignorant to ban something, just becuase of an isolated incident. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 11:47 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Hip hop music is a form of entertainment and has never been a symbol for anything. It's a false equivalence because they only have insignificantly few things in common, I mean you have to get into the minutia to find them. If you don't think there is a good percentage of Hip-Hop music that promotes, illegal activities, violence, and racisim; then we just disagree. Not sure what the Black Panthers have to do with the article posted about violence at a concert. What is that definition of False Equivalance again? It's just the hipocrisy that is amusing. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I agree it would be ignorant to ban something, just becuase of an isolated incident. "Isolated incident" Now I am only interested in the state house as it applies to the flag. As far as I'm concerned any private citizen can do what they want with that flag. That being said it is also up to business owners what they do with it as well. In this free market a business owner can choose to display/sell or not to display/sell the flag and the people have a right to patronize either of those businesses per their own desires on the subject. If you think about it. This is a business opportunity. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you don't think there is a good percentage of Hip-Hop music that promotes, illegal activities, violence, and racisim; then we just disagree. The definition is comparing a form of entertainment to a flag. Then ignoring the correct comparison of a flag to a flag. Congrats. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:47 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: The definition is comparing a form of entertainment to a flag. Then ignoring the correct comparison of a flag to a flag. Congrats. I thought I was comparing something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim to something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim; however, now I see that they are not comparable as both are not flags. Thank you for the congratulations. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I thought I was comparing something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim to something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim; however, now I see that they are not comparable as both are not flags. Thank you for the congratulations. You are welcome. Now you understand that grabbing the minutia of similarities and using it to create an equivalent is the definition of false equivalent. Given the fact that those flags have multiple historical and time tested similarities as to how they are used creates an equivalent that is not false. I also note that they don't fly one of those flags on state capital grounds. Also just for poops and giggles I wonder if they have Hip-Hop (especially racially divisive type) constantly playing at a state capital? I bet not, but again I am always open to being corrected. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:09 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Also just for poops and giggles I wonder if they have Hip-Hop (especially racially divisive type) constantly playing at a state capital? I bet not, but again I am always open to being corrected. Wow, someone didn't see this crappy movie from 1986! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K50FznebrFc RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I thought I was comparing something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim to something that promotes violence, hatred, and racisim; however, now I see that they are not comparable as both are not flags. Thank you for the congratulations. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/06/police-man-injured-in-anti-white-assault/29775635/ Quote:Police backed away Monday from an officer's incident report that described the Saturday night assault on a man near Fountain Square as an "anti-white" crime. Sounds like an aggressive white dude. Maybe the kind of guy who thinks "hip-hop" promotes " violence, hatred, and racisim" because he doesn't listen to it. ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:12 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Wow, someone didn't see this crappy movie from 1986! Netflix here I come. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/06/police-man-injured-in-anti-white-assault/29775635/ Now someone just has to scour his facebook page for a picture of him looking thuggish to hammer home the point. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:09 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: You are welcome. Now you understand that grabbing the minutia of similarities and using it to create an equivalent is the definition of false equivalent. Given the fact that those flags have multiple historical and time tested similarities as to how they are used creates an equivalent that is not false. I also note that they don't fly one of those flags on state capital grounds. Yeah, you kinda brought up the Black Panther Flag. And by your logic the fact that it can be compared to the Confederate Flag proves that you cannot compare the violence, hatred, and racisim that that flag symbolizes to the violence, hatred, and racisim a genre of music promotes. Seems logical. Also you are the only one that keeps bringing up Captial gounds; I really do know why. Unless you think that place is the only place either can "stand for" violence, hatred, and racisim. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/06/police-man-injured-in-anti-white-assault/29775635/ What in that report leads you to believe he was aggressive? The walking part or the white part? RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:28 AM)bfine32 Wrote: The fact that folks are looking to remove the symbol while ignoring the cause. (07-07-2015, 01:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Also you are the only one that keeps bringing up Captial gounds; I really do know why. Unless you think that place is the only place either can "stand for" violence, hatred, and racisim. I must be misunderstanding by what you mean by "remove the symbol". RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:16 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Now someone just has to scour his facebook page for a picture of him looking thuggish to hammer home the point. Wife beater shirt and a copy of a Dukes of Hazzard video at the home and we can begin to press charges against him. |