(04-05-2021, 07:13 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Larry Ogunjobi  replaced Geno 

And then the one place you can call it an upgrade is they sign Reiff and cut Hart.

(04-05-2021, 12:52 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'm tired of seeing these types of posts. Just because there's examples of guys getting hurt behind great lines = we shouldn't try to have a great line? You're better than this.

1. Having a good/great line massively improves the chances of your guy not getting hurt. Fewer hits and sacks = fewer opportunities to get injured. It's really simple.

2. This isn't just about keeping Burrow healthy (which is clearly huge). It's also about the run game ranking 31st in yards/carry last year. Better blocking = better run game...which leads to shorter 3rd downs. Shorter 3rd downs help Burrow and the entire offense.

3. It's also about the deep passing game. Better blocking = more time to throw and let routes develop so guys are open. This will lead to more explosive plays, which will also lead to safeties not crowding up as much, which will lead to more open guys inside 10 yards.

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Football is all about chain reactions. If the line is really good and you have a good QB, things tend to snowball from there.

This is why if you look at the last couple decades of SB winners, you aren't going to see many names like Megatron, Fitzgerald, Moss, Chad, AJ Green, Julio, etc. You're going to see elite QB's with good lines blocking for them.

We've been trying the QB/WR tandem thing for a long time now. Blake to Pickens. Carson to Chad. Dalton to Green. Now we want Burrow to Chase? If Burrow is going to be an elite QB, those guys cycle through WR's. Think of Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Ben. How many WR's have those guys gone through?

(04-05-2021, 08:27 PM)Au165 Wrote: Which says Pitts is in play to me...

I’m #teamPitts

(04-05-2021, 10:24 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: If one side gets mad, that doesn't make them wrong, either. Time will tell...if we take Chase and the line stays a problem.

I feel like some of you are trying to paint the other side as unreasonable, but the "unreasonable" side may be right in the end.

(04-05-2021, 10:28 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The funny thing, for me is that, no matter who we take--Chase/Sewell--i'm gonna be super happy but i'm also gonna be disappointed we didn't get the other guy. Weird...

But yes, i said it before; as much as i would love to have Chase, it's just so much smarter to get Sewell and then the WR in 2. 

(04-05-2021, 10:32 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I mean, we could take Sewell and the line could still remain a problem...

Going from the PAC-12 to the AFC North (with guys like Garrett, Watt, etc) is going to be quite an adjustment. Sewell certainly has the higher upside, but if we truly want the more immediate help it might be Slater.

Idk, I’ve said it multiple times, but I’m glad I’m not Tobin. It’s going to be a tough choice no matter what.

(04-05-2021, 04:22 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not counting Gronk as a pass catcher is silly, but ok Edelman was there for half of the NE Super Bowl’s so the original comment I responded to claiming Brady just won his first one without a bunch of nobodies was not true.

Anyway, like I said before, expecting any QB to recreate what Brady did is not a sound strategy. You need to give your QB good OL play and plenty of weapons.

Look at Rodgers in GB. They’ve ignored the skill positions for years there. Maybe if they’d actually give Rodgers another weapon to play with Adams one of the most talented QB’s to ever play the game would have more than a single ring.

You. Need. Both.

(04-05-2021, 10:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Belichick has never been a big WR coach. TE, slot and RB all factor in their passing offense. And it's true, they have a focus on being strong in the trenches. 

It would be silly to say they won so much with "no name" anything though. 

(04-05-2021, 10:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Which is funny since he brought in Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, and Antonio Brown...

(03-29-2021, 06:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The LSU O-line was elite.

If Joe could make an offense go without a good O-line then he would not have been the 25th ranked QB in the league.  Boyd, Higgens, and Mixon are all good skill position players.

(04-05-2021, 10:34 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I've considered whether or not we should trade down for Slater and pick up another pick or two. This team has plenty of holes.

(04-05-2021, 10:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Belichick has never been a big WR coach. TE, slot and RB all factor in their passing offense. And it's true, they have a focus on being strong in the trenches. 

It would be silly to say they won so much with "no name" anything though. 

(04-06-2021, 10:36 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: No they were not Elite, they were solid.

25th in half a season, not bad considering Rookie year and short Training camp, and he was on par to finish much higher than that.

I say give him the weapons and let him loose.

(04-05-2021, 10:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is amazing the mental gymnastics some people will go through in order to get their whine on.

Ogunjobi.....46 tkls.....12 pressures....5 TFL
Atkins.......... 1 tkl....... 1 pressure......0 TFL

No upgrade there at all

(04-06-2021, 02:02 PM)bengals67 Wrote: I'm taking o line with one and two if I was GM.

Big Ben wouldn't have been so great without a running game and an  o line that until last year that has been consistently a top 5 line.

We are not winning Super Bowl next year or the year afterwards. Team is at least two years away.

They cannot fix everything so I am putting all my chips on establishing a running game and protecting Burrow.

I might feel differently if they had signed a top free agent guard but they didn't .

You don't pass on someone who might be a Hall of Fame left tackle for someone who might e a hall of fame 

(04-06-2021, 02:25 PM)BleedNOrange Wrote: "There will be guys available in the second round, third round that we have starter grades on." -Duke Tobin

Sounding more and more like Chase.

https://twitter.com/Ben_Baby/status/1379200826661597184