(03-26-2023, 09:02 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Well with the lack of free agent signings I do wish we would try and add a couple years to Readers contract. On Jonah I was really surprised he asked for a trade. I get that RT commands less money than LT but he couldn't be expecting anywhere near top money between injuries and just his level of play when he has been healthy. I would think he would atleast add to his market attention with a healthy decent year at RT. Probably best we try and move on by drafting a RT this year anyway.

(03-26-2023, 09:02 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Well with the lack of free agent signings I do wish we would try and add a couple years to Readers contract.

(03-26-2023, 09:42 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: As good as he's been when he's on the field, he's often not on the field. He's missed 18 games in his 3 years as a Bengal, including 6 last year. Now he's heading into his age 29 season.

Don't know if it's smart to add a couple years onto a guy right now for his age 30, 31, potentially age 32 seasons if he's had that kind of health track record, as guys generally don't become more durable with more age and injuries.

(03-26-2023, 09:42 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: As good as he's been when he's on the field, he's often not on the field. He's missed 18 games in his 3 years as a Bengal, including 6 last year. Now he's heading into his age 29 season.

Don't know if it's smart to add a couple years onto a guy right now for his age 30, 31, potentially age 32 seasons if he's had that kind of health track record, as guys generally don't become more durable with more age and injuries.

(03-26-2023, 10:01 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: He had the injury the 1st year with us. I wouldn't really consider that durability concerns for me even if he missed some game this year. He came back and played at a high level. The age thing is probably gonna be a factor. He's just been a part of so many of our big plays this season. If this ends up being his last year probably another reason we should've gone all in this year and figured out the future when it got here.

(03-22-2023, 09:12 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Said it tongue in cheek, not sure the Bengals can get anything for him or Jonah.  Possibly a little something for Jonah. 

If they can though,  take it and run. Like them both but their time is done here. 

Their inevitable departure can only be put off for another year anyway. Neither will be re-signed unless it is at a huge discount so the Bengals should just resign to the fact and move on. Jonah is disgruntled, yet Mixon could have some value playing if he does not get Burrow killed in the process. 

Not sure he is worth the gamble and there will be good players available by freeing up their money after June cuts and the Bengals are an attractive landing spot. 

But won't be surprised if both are retained, just think there are better ways to spend that money. Never felt this way about Jonah and hoped he bounced back from the injuries. Yet if he does not want to be here ? Get somebody who does. 

(03-25-2023, 10:38 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: if a healthy jonah is an average starting LT, he should be an average starting RT. At least that's my thought

(03-25-2023, 08:36 PM)Joelist Wrote: WE have a thread somewhere in here where KillerGoose showed Volsons ratings versus the NFL average for Guards and did it as a season long trend line. He started rough (the whole line did as that opening day was literally the first time that line ever took snaps together) but by season end he was at or slightly over the NFL Guard average. So he trended in the right direction.

(03-26-2023, 10:41 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I am hoping there is a team that doesn't get a FA LT they covet, decides to draft one, but views Jonah as a "bridge" that can help hedge their bet on the draft pick.  If Jonah plays like he has a few years back, he will certainly earn a new contract from either that team or a compensatory pick if he ends up somewhere else.

I would set my floor at a 3rd round pick but hope for a 2nd. 

(03-26-2023, 10:44 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I get where you are coming from, but his biggest weakness (anchor) would be even more exposed on the right side.  Sabin reportedly said to Belichek when he was drafted that he could play "anywhere on the line", but I would even prefer Carman to Johan at this point as the starting RT.  I wish him well and hope he has a full recovery and maybe lose some of the bad weight he added trying to improve his anchor, but actually hurt his agility.  

(03-25-2023, 10:54 PM)Destro Wrote: Thread on Jonah Williams has over 600 replies. What an off season.

(03-26-2023, 11:12 AM)ElkValleyBengal Wrote: I would be more than happy to be wrong here, but my realistic ceiling would be a third.  I'm thinking a fourth rounder is even a more realistic hope, and only a few teams would probably consider that.  His injury history, plus the guaranteed money, don't make him an overly attractive target.  Plus the fact he's only under contract for the upcoming season.  Perhaps if the Bengals ate part of the money they could get a better deal.

But again, glad to be mistaken.

(03-26-2023, 09:57 AM)Toronto Bengal Wrote: Would like to see Reader / Hill get some help. Don't know what the cost would be but Calais Campbell would be someone who could provide great rotational depth . 

(03-26-2023, 05:03 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: if Fred was here, it'd be double that...

(03-26-2023, 11:23 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Gotta believe Fred lives somewhere on here still but just cant be typical Fred with replies and unveil his 007 secrecy. 

Do know he is arguing Bengals somewhere though, even if not on here. He is a diehard Bengals fan who lives to fan the flames, God love him. 

(03-26-2023, 10:56 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: Yeah, it was an idea that you had. Here is a link for that post.

(03-26-2023, 10:01 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: He had the injury the 1st year with us. I wouldn't really consider that durability concerns for me even if he missed some game this year. He came back and played at a high level. The age thing is probably gonna be a factor. He's just been a part of so many of our big plays this season. If this ends up being his last year probably another reason we should've gone all in this year and figured out the future when it got here.

(03-26-2023, 11:23 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Gotta believe Fred lives somewhere on here still but just cant be typical Fred with replies and unveil his 007 secrecy. 

Do know he is arguing Bengals somewhere though, even if not on here. He is a diehard Bengals fan who lives to fan the flames, God love him. 

(03-26-2023, 09:20 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: I think he got banned on purpose because he knew he would get even more attention and mentions from the great beyond lol

(03-26-2023, 10:24 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Much like Billy the Kid, Fred went out in a blaze of glory.

The name Fred will live now forever in Bengals message board lore in a contentious way.

 

(03-27-2023, 12:50 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Fred's toast?