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RE: Proposed KO rules.... - SunsetBengal - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 05:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: That is why it needs to be exactly like a punt.
Give the team 4th and 10 (or 15) at their own 35. They can either punt or go for it.
What?? That is preposterous. 4th down can only result from playing the first 3 downs preceding. So, you want to propose taking away a perfectly exciting way to initiate play, and replace it with some hypothetical fairy tale?
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - fredtoast - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 05:52 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: What?? That is preposterous. 4th down can only result from playing the first 3 downs preceding. So, you want to propose taking away a perfectly exciting way to initiate play, and replace it with some hypothetical fairy tale?
A punt is just as exciting as a kick off. Just fewer serious injuries.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - bfine32 - 05-04-2018
I've always thought the count to 10 was the fairest way to determine a KO
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - fredtoast - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 05:39 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: Avg. NFL punt is 45yds and it takes around 20 yds for a player reach full speed. Players are still going to be running at full speed when they hit the ball carrier.
But not all 11 guys on each team. Basically just the gunners on the cover team.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - fredtoast - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 05:36 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: But even if 1 kickoff return in 5 years changed the outcome of a game in the teams favor its worth it... its exciting to watch.
You can't call a play the results in excitement one time in five years "the most exciting part of the game"
Replace it with a punt and you lose zero excitement but reduce injuries.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - bengalsturntup926 - 05-04-2018
I seem to recall Adam Jones having quite a few exciting returns in the last 5 years. I mean other then him we had Brandon Tate who was never an exciting returner. But now it looks like we drafted a good one. Don't be taking it away now.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - SunsetBengal - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 06:00 PM)fredtoast Wrote: A punt is just as exciting as a kick off. Just fewer serious injuries.
Maybe in your opinion..
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 05-04-2018
Devin Hester sure wasn't exciting in his time, neither was Deion Sanders or any of those Kickoff Returns.
Adam wasn't exciting either.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - bengaloo - 05-04-2018
Hoping to see Phillips return some kicks.
Anyway Ive thought about this and I think the more this direction they should go the cheaper it should be to see the games and the less money players should make. They get paid multimillions to take those risks. Its a choice. They could have a college degree and earn their way closer to what normal people do, or they could be football players and sacrifice their bodies in exchange for millions of dollars and retire by age 35. If they keep taking the risk and the fun out of it, the value goes down. I think its pretty fair anyway. Its not like these guys are risking actual their lives working 50 hours per week a mile deep, 52 weeks per year for 60k per year like coal minors or something. They are football players and a lot of good people pay serious money to watch these guys play and support them.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - SunsetBengal - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 09:36 PM)bengaloo Wrote: Hoping to see Phillips return some kicks.
Anyway Ive thought about this and I think the more this direction they should go the cheaper it should be to see the games and the less money players should make. They get paid multimillions to take those risks. Its a choice. They could have a college degree and earn their way closer to what normal people do, or they could be football players and sacrifice their bodies in exchange for millions of dollars and retire by age 35. If they keep taking the risk and the fun out of it, the value goes down. I think its pretty fair anyway. Its not like these guys are risking actual their lives working 50 hours per week a mile deep, 52 weeks per year for 60k per year like coal minors or something. They are football players and a lot of good people pay serious money to watch these guys play and support them.
My perspective is pretty much the same as yours. Every time they amend the rules of the game in the name of safety, they take another piece of the excitement away from the entertainment aspect of the game. If we wanted to watch non-stop scoring, where people rarely get seriously injured, we would all be watching arena ball. Is it any wonder that arena ball players only make 100K or less?
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - HarleyDog - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 05:11 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Please show me this top ten list that I asked for.
You don't need a top ten. You only need 1. The possibility of changing a L to a W. Drop the sippy cup and get off the high chair. This is what it's all about. Hope, chance, last ditch effort. Change the game, be a man and win. Take that away? Let's just watch fishing with Grampohol (no offense Gramps).
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - mallorian69 - 05-04-2018
(05-04-2018, 08:48 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Devin Hester sure wasn't exciting in his time, neither was Deion Sanders or any of those Kickoff Returns.
Adam wasn't exciting either.
How bout don't kick the ball to Dante Hall aka the human joystick.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - Tomkat - 05-06-2018
(05-03-2018, 02:25 PM)grampahol Wrote: ...the league will go on without you..
If enough people say "f**k it," - no, it won't.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - fredtoast - 05-06-2018
(05-05-2018, 04:29 AM)Jhowdy54 Wrote: Alex Erickson thinking he was a fast black guy
Seriously?
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - fredtoast - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 02:10 PM)Tomkat Wrote: If enough people say "f**k it," - no, it won't.
They won't.
The kick off is a very minor part of the game. Fans do not even knpow what players are on the kick off anf cover teams
People who love football will not quit watching just because of a rule change like this.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - wildcats forever - 05-06-2018
(05-03-2018, 11:44 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Anyone knows the answer is Soccer.
Give blood. Play Rugby.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - SunsetBengal - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 05:27 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: Give blood. Play Rugby.
If someone would have shown me Rugby, about the time we all started playing football? I might have went for Rugby. Kind of reminded me of a game we played on the playground, in recess.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - wildcats forever - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 06:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If someone would have shown me Rugby, about the time we all started playing football? I might have went for Rugby. Kind of reminded me of a game we played on the playground, in recess.
If you're going to play in shorts and knee socks, you gotta be tough !!
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - SunsetBengal - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 06:18 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: If you're going to play in shorts and knee socks, you gotta be tough !!
I don't often stumble upon full team games. However, I do catch some of the Sevens league games. Quite exciting and fast paced.
RE: Proposed KO rules.... - rfaulk34 - 05-06-2018
(05-03-2018, 11:51 PM)grampahol Wrote: Full contact ping pong golfing chess.
That's the one i was going with. Soccer schmoccer.