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RE: Number 22 - Mike M (the other one) - 07-03-2019 (07-03-2019, 03:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: So does a lot of stuff that you say "so what" about. Someone getting their butt squeezed or kissed does not create serious mental issues. RE: Number 22 - GMDino - 07-03-2019 (07-03-2019, 03:52 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Someone getting their butt squeezed or kissed does not create serious mental issues. Of course not! And certainly when it's against their will! "so what" indeed. RE: Number 22 - Dill - 07-03-2019 (07-03-2019, 08:59 AM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Did you watch the CNN clip? (07-03-2019, 10:29 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: OK but did you read where she said she wasn't Traumatized by the event? So it makes no sense. It does make sense if she was traumatized and in denial. The sense I got from what she has written and said is that her personality is "broken." She is holding contradictory beliefs and feelings she cannot manage well. One sentence she says she is totally fine and not affected; in another she has kept a dress untouched for decades and fears seeing/confronting Trump. At the time of the alleged rape, she was advised by one woman to come forward and another to keep silent (the kind of advice that enables rapists). She seems to be acting on both advisements at the same time. She wants to feel strong and independent; but she cannot hide her fear. She wants to tell the truth about what happened, cathartically get out what she has held in all these years, and hopefully get some support; but she fears the backlash and of admitting fear and weakness "strong" women are not supposed to have nowadays. Feminists say women who come forward are brave and help bring into the light and correct a tacitly accepted social norm that favors sexual abusers in the courts and public opinion. So Carroll wants to be brave. But feminists are misleading when they say that social norms have changed to the point that now courts and public opinion listen to the accuser. Many people, especially males, still think harassment is basically harmless, on the one hand, and on the other, that it is very common for women to have "second thoughts" after consensual sex and accuse innocent men after the fact. Waiting years to finally accuse is taken, not as a sign of trauma and fear, but of ulterior motives (Why NOW, after all this time?). If you think of Carroll as an older woman whose personality was formed in the days women were taught to see themselves as causes of sexual violence and to bear responsibility for men's bad behavior, but now living the aftermath of a rape in a time when women are praised (by feminists at least) for challenging that norm and coming forward to accuse powerful men, that might explain the schizo character of her behavior. (One thinks here of the extreme difficulties Florida authorities had in prosecuting Trump's friend, Jeffrey Epstein, for scores of rape counts involving minors. Trump's second rape accuser was allegedly one of those minors and named Epstein as well as Trump in her civil suit against Trump, which has twice been brought forward. That accuser failed to show up at a press conference in 2016 and reportedly dropped the lawsuit afterwards.) RE: Number 22 - GMDino - 07-04-2019 Look the judge said he's a "good kid" with a "bright future". He's not even sure it counts as rape. "so what" And the second case in the story? Pffft. The 12 year old "just lost her virginity" there would be no "further mental or emotional injuries." "so what" https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/nyregion/judge-james-troiano-rape.html Quote:The 16-year-old girl was visibly intoxicated, her speech slurred, when a drunk 16-year-old boy sexually assaulted her in a dark basement during an alcohol-fueled pajama party in New Jersey, prosecutors said. More at the link, but "so what". RE: Number 22 - Dill - 07-04-2019 (07-04-2019, 10:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: Look the judge said he's a "good kid" with a "bright future". You are accepting the liberal press version. They don't tell you what that 12-year-old was wearing, do they? Why did she let a teenage boy force his way into her bedroom? The court--a female judge--recognized there was clearly no injury beyond loss of virginity. As opposed to "serious harm." "Consideration should be given to the family court's expertise, common sense, and experience in handling such matters" (10). These court decisions send a message to Pelosi and all those trying to destroy Trump: Women accusing the president for political purposes--especially ugly women--have virtually no chance of ruining a good man's life in today's America. RE: Number 22 - Arturo Bandini - 07-04-2019 (06-21-2019, 11:33 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yes your numbers were all assuming he did what he is accused of (very open-minded). I was just curious why there was no consideration of maybe he didn't do it. Didn't he say himself that he grabbed women by their genitals ? How do you call this ? RE: Number 22 - bfine32 - 07-11-2019 Apparently there are ways to avoid such accusations: https://www.yahoo.com/news/miss-candidate-stands-by-his-rule-no-time-alone-with-a-female-reporter-160344454.html Quote:A Mississippi Republican running for governor and a female reporter seeking to spend a day with him on the campaign trail squared off Thursday morning on CNN over his refusal to be alone with her. RE: Number 22 - bfine32 - 07-11-2019 Is this #23 where Trump commits Battery by forcibly kissing the woman on the lips: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-lawyers-release-video-of-alleged-kiss-with-former-campaign-staffer-alva-johnson/ RE: Number 22 - Goalpost - 07-11-2019 So whatever happened to the congressional slush fund using tax payers money. I would like to see the names regardless of party affiliation. RE: Number 22 - BakertheBeast - 07-12-2019 Can you imagine all the Debauchery that has/is going in in Washington that we never hear about? RE: Number 22 - Dill - 07-12-2019 (07-11-2019, 08:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Is this #23 where Trump commits Battery by forcibly kissing the woman on the lips: If I'm a Trump supporter, I WANT that one in the news. RE: Number 22 - Dill - 07-12-2019 (07-11-2019, 10:25 PM)Goalpost Wrote: So whatever happened to the congressional slush fund using tax payers money. I would like to see the names regardless of party affiliation. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-use-slush-fund-pay-17-million-women-sexually-harassed/ RE: Number 22 - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 07-12-2019 (07-11-2019, 06:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Apparently there are ways to avoid such accusations: But, he is okay being alone with the men? RE: Number 22 - GMDino - 07-12-2019 (07-11-2019, 06:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Apparently there are ways to avoid such accusations: "men" like this are so funny they're stupid. (07-12-2019, 05:51 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: But, he is okay being alone with the men? Exactly. What if a MAN accuses him?!?! He sounds like another guy who can't trust himself. RE: Number 22 - Aquapod770 - 07-15-2019 (07-12-2019, 10:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: "men" like this are so funny they're stupid. Yeah, poor Kamela Harris wouldn't have a job. |