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RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - Belsnickel - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:08 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I didn't ask how many Western Countries have Muslim elected officials. I asked how many western countries are governed (led) by Muslims. In a representative government, elected officials are the government, they are the leaders. I do not consider the POTUS the leader of our country. The role is constitutionally no more important than that of Congress. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:11 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: In a representative government, elected officials are the government, they are the leaders. I do not consider the POTUS the leader of our country. The role is constitutionally no more important than that of Congress. That is interesting. How many Western Countries are governed by Muslims? Do you want me to give you the answer; as you seem to not grasp the question? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - Belsnickel - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:17 AM)bfine32 Wrote: That is interesting. How many Western Countries are governed by Muslims? I grasp the question perfectly. You seem to be unable to grasp the concept of representative governments, which are what most western countries are. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - StLucieBengal - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:10 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: This right here. Secularism is what tempers religious extremism. So you favor Assad as leader of Syria over an Islamic elected government then... Or is that only applicable in western countries? Not trying to get into a Syria debate. Btw ... Secular vs non secular is what I am asking RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:21 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I grasp the question perfectly. You seem to be unable to grasp the concept of representative governments, which are what most western countries are.Yet cannot answer it; except to say I don't know. Let's try this: How many Western Countries are represented by Muslim leadership? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - StLucieBengal - 11-08-2015 Muslim leadership would jail and/or punish everything holy to the liberals. Which in itself is kinda funny since they are the biggest defenders. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:32 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Muslim leadership would jail and/or punish everything holy to the liberals. Seems they would be OK with a "Token Muslim" RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - GMDino - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:25 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Yet cannot answer it; except to say I don't know. (11-08-2015, 12:32 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Muslim leadership would jail and/or punish everything holy to the liberals. Ruh roh Raggy! http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/11/05/muslim-majority-city-council-may-1st-usa/75259712/ Quote:HAMTRAMCK, Mich. — Hamtramck residents have elected a Muslim majority to its city council, symbolizing the demographic changes that have transformed the city once known for being a Polish-Catholic enclave. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:46 AM)GMDino Wrote: Ruh roh Raggy! bfine32 Wrote:That is interesting. How many Western Countries are governed by Muslims? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - StLucieBengal - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:46 AM)GMDino Wrote: Ruh roh Raggy! Funny you should bring up Michigan..... You know the Muslim bakers also refuse to make cakes or participate in or for gay marriages. How does that sit with you?..... should these people be forced to participate or lose their business plus fined for over 150k? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - fredtoast - 11-08-2015 (11-07-2015, 09:46 PM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Nope. Somebody gets it. Rep. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - fredtoast - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 03:30 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Funny you should bring up Michigan..... You know the Muslim bakers also refuse to make cakes or participate in or for gay marriages. The laws apply the same to everyone. If a Muslim gets taken to court for this then the courts will rule the same way they did with the others. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - fredtoast - 11-08-2015 (11-07-2015, 11:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The premise of the thread is a mystery; as you cannot bring the beliefs of Muslims into the equation. The premise is pretty easy to understand for most people. We have had Christian Presidents who have been able to separate their religious beliefs from their official government policy on issues like abortion and same sex marraige. However some people don't believe Muslims are capable of doing this. They believe that, unlike some Christians, ALL Muslims are fanatically devoted to their religious beliefs. These are the people who stereotype ALL Muslims as violent extremists. Get it now? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 06:08 AM)fredtoast Wrote: The premise is pretty easy to understand for most people. So the purpose of the OP was..... RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - GMDino - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 10:45 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So the purpose of the OP was..... ...over your head and beyond your comprehension? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - GodHatesBengals - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 12:22 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So you favor Assad as leader of Syria over an Islamic elected government then... Or is that only applicable in western countries? I favor government that is based on a separation of church and state. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 10:55 AM)GMDino Wrote: ...over your head and beyond your comprehension? Well that wasn't very helpful. So going it alone, I'd say the purpose of the OP (with public poll) was a feeble attempt to try to paint some board members as closed minded and/or bigoted. Because outside of that I has no idea why a candidate's beliefs were introduced in the thread if we were not supposed to consider them. Was I at least close? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - GMDino - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 11:06 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well that wasn't very helpful. I'd assume not since Fred posted the exact reason and you a)ignored it or b)don't understand it. Maybe if he had mention the KKK? RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - GodHatesBengals - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 11:06 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well that wasn't very helpful. The purpose of the OP is right there in the title of the thread. If you feel it has painted you as bigoted, then perhaps you shouldn't have responded. It's important to remember that you don't have to reply to anything at all on this board. RE: Would you vote for a Muslim for POTUS? - bfine32 - 11-08-2015 (11-08-2015, 11:10 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'd assume not since Fred posted the exact reason and you a)ignored it or b)don't understand it. Oh, I went back and read Fred's "reason". Seems he was trying to determine which board members were "open-minded" enough to be willing to vote for a POTUS despite his religious beliefs and wanted to ensures folk's votes were public. Because he definitely didn't want to have a discussion about how a Muslim's beliefs could influence his policies as President. Guess I'm off base. I'll work on the comprehension think that you suggest I am lacking. Thanks for the advice. |