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RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024 (05-31-2024, 09:07 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're certainly doing everything you can to avoid the actual substance of the points being made. As explained, everything was not done above board, whether there is an appeals process or not. My bad if I'm actually concerned about the future of the country. I just assumed you'd be more concerned with actual law and order. It's not even the first case he's lost in the last year. I'm concerned about the future of the country too. Not because he lost a trial where he had every right given to any one of us...but because Trump would be horrible for it. But he can still run for office even as a convicted felon. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Mike M (the other one) - 05-31-2024 (05-31-2024, 08:04 PM)samhain Wrote: If it indeed is, then how on earth could and actual ex-president's defense team overlook such an obvious disqualifier? They could have delayed the case and asked for another judge long before the day after the verdict. Makes for a great appeal case though. And congrats, the R's are officially united now. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024 (05-31-2024, 10:19 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Makes for a great appeal case though. You mean al it took for the RINOs and never-Trumpers was to have him be convicted? Heck they should have been united months ago. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Belsnickel - 05-31-2024 (05-31-2024, 04:16 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: An interesting article from a former federal prosecutor. I don't think it is as important as you do, and I also think Elie is wrong. So, in order for the charges to be upped to felonies, there must be the intent to conceal or further another crime. The prosecution's case included evidence that they were done with the intent to conceal or further three other potential crimes: election finance violations, tax fraud, and/or falsifying other business records. Trump was not being charged with any of those crimes, was never indicted for them, and so it wasn't required to be fully fleshed out. That's how the law is written in New York. Now, is there a potential that the law itself is scrutinized? Quite possibly, but the way the trial was conducted was based on the law as written. (05-31-2024, 06:13 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Always good to open with an insult. It's only an insult because you want it to be. The word itself is not inherently insulting. (05-31-2024, 06:13 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I am curious as to those statistics. Total voter block. (05-31-2024, 06:13 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: If the total voter block, I would submit that the 20-25% may be democrat voters. That would be illogical. Democrat voters aren't going to change their vote based on Trump being found guilty of a felony because they already weren't voting for him. Also, when broken down, roughly 25% of Trump voters said they would reconsider their vote if he were found guilty of a felony. The percentage was higher among independents. Of course, again, Democrats wouldn't really be changing because they already weren't voting for him. (05-31-2024, 06:19 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I would guess the Stormy Daniels testimony, potentially the odd jury instructions (55 pages and the jurors cannot have a copy, but must sit through a reading)., there were a lot of odd moving parts. Out of everything you listed, only the Stormy Daniels testimony would be something I would see as a leverage point. Though Trump's team opened the door for it and did not object in the moment, which makes it difficult to appeal on it down the road. There wasn't actually anything off about the jury instructions, as much as some in the media are making it seem. The law wasn't changed so he could be charged and up-charging is a part of the law he was charged with. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 05-31-2024 I have. not read entire thread, but couple of reasons why Trump wins on appeal. 1. Judge is conflicted,against NY law for a judge to donate to Biden. 2. Crimes were not identified by prosecution upfront and judge allowed it (see #1) 3. Judge our nit allow defense to present expert witnesss on election fraud with no limitations. (See #1) 4. Judge failed to give fair jury instructions (see #1) CNN legal experts are saying bogus conviction. My last point, 2 things to know after conviction, Trump raised 49 million dollars in less than 24 hours and WAIT FOR IT,TRUMP WENT UP 6 points in 1sr poll after conviction. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - NATI BENGALS - 06-01-2024 (05-31-2024, 09:07 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're certainly doing everything you can to avoid the actual substance of the points being made. As explained, everything was not done above board, whether there is an appeals process or not. My bad if I'm actually concerned about the future of the country. Ah yes. If republicans and right wing media can not jam a convicted felon down the throats of America and make him POTUS, in a country that rejected him when he lost the popular vote the last two times, for some reason the future of the country is in danger. Republican logic is in shambles. I’m flabbergasted. Maybe hitch your wagon to anybody that isn’t a giant scumbag with more character red flags than Pac-Man jones. I’m going to shoot myself in the foot and then race in a marathon. When I lose I’ll blame the rigged system and Biden. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - samhain - 06-01-2024 (05-31-2024, 10:19 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Makes for a great appeal case though. That's funny. Most of the remaining party has done nothing but lick Trumps scrotum since 2016. Oooh. Now they're super-Trumpy. Yeah right. Not enough people with spines in that party to do anything but lick boots and fall in line. Absolutely nothing has changed with this verdict. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 06-01-2024 The same liberals applauding justice in Trump case are attempting to demean the biggest court in the land. Liberals show their biased cards against Supreme Court, but dismiss a political prosecution led by a DA who promised before he had a crime he would get Trump, a liberal judge who donated money to Biden and has a daughter who gets major donations for Democrats in a portion of NYC with a jury pool 92% liberal. Please be consistent, if this is overturned on appeal by lower courts or SC, Trump would not be a felon. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Mike M (the other one) - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 12:39 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Ah yes. If republicans and right wing media can not jam a convicted felon down the throats of America and make him POTUS, in a country that rejected him when he lost the popular vote the last two times, for some reason the future of the country is in danger. You making Karen's look like nice people RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Mike M (the other one) - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:02 AM)samhain Wrote: That's funny. Most of the remaining party has done nothing but lick Trumps scrotum since 2016. Oooh. Now they're super-Trumpy. Really? Mitch who doesn't like Trump is now backing Trump after the verdict was announced. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:02 AM)samhain Wrote: That's funny. Most of the remaining party has done nothing but lick Trumps scrotum since 2016. Oooh. Now they're super-Trumpy. Says the guy who supports a brain dead POTUS who has ruined our country. Americans believe in fairness, it is obvious to most the same thing Trump did, HRC did and got. Fine. NY took at misdemeanor and turned into. Federal felony. But because it is the guy Biden can’t beat on November 5, they attempt to jail him. Please spare us your holy BS, no conservative or independent is buying it. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - samhain - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:03 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The same liberals applauding justice in Trump case are attempting to demean the biggest court in the land. I think you would feel better if you went out and shot some liberals. If you really love Trump and want to save the country, you'll do it. If not, you are a traitor. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - samhain - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:07 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Says the guy who supports a brain dead POTUS who has ruined our country. Americans believe in fairness, it is obvious to most the same thing Trump did, HRC did and got. Fine. Also, have you actually cried about this yet? RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 06-01-2024 I said it months ago, convict Trump in a biased political case and he wins by a landslide. As I mentioned earlier, Trump went up 6 points after the conviction. They ignited and brought the GOP together. If judge puts him in jail or stops him from campaigning, Trump wins popular vote in.a landslide. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:10 AM)samhain Wrote: Also, have you actually cried about this yet? I loved it. Trump wins do to a political persecution coupled with Biden’s 4 years of failure. I see lot of liberals crying in November, more than cried in 2016. I never cried when Trump lost, life goes on. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - NATI BENGALS - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 01:05 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: You making Karen's look like nice people And I'm trying to be nice. It's inexcusable for the republican party to keep putting the country through this bullshit. This guy legitimately attempted to over throw the will of the people on top of numerous instances of other scumbag shit in every facet of his life. Why is it hard to comprehend people don't like that and don't want to make him the most powerful man in the country? RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Mike M (the other one) - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 02:04 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: And I'm trying to be nice. It is, but right now even Charles Manson would get the vote over Biden, so what does that say about your candidate? RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - NATI BENGALS - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 02:52 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: It is, but right now even Charles Manson would get the vote over Biden, so what does that say about your candidate? Yes. Like I said. Republican logic is in shambles. Right wing media has completely decimated the party. RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Arturo Bandini - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 02:52 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: It is, but right now even Charles Manson would get the vote over Biden, so what does that say about your candidate? Maybe it tells more about you ... RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Mike M (the other one) - 06-01-2024 (06-01-2024, 03:55 AM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: Maybe it tells more about you ... Nah, I can admit they are both crappy choices, but you probably can't. |