(08-24-2018, 07:41 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 2016....Kevid Dodd or Mackensie Alexander in the first round?  Braxton Miller in the second?

2017....2nd round pick Adam Bisnowaty has racked up a total of one start in 2 years on a team with one of the worst O-lines in the league and 3rd round pick Tyler Orlosky has not even made an NFL roster.  Too bad we didn't have you drafting to fix our O-line, right?  Of course we could have been set at WR if we had taken Amara Darbroh in the 2nd round.  And Jaylen Myrick and Jake Butt in the third was a brilliant move.  How silly of the Jags to wait til the 7th round to take Myrick and Denver to take BUtt in the fifth.

(08-23-2018, 02:09 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Do you ever have anything positive to say?

This is a false statement, BTW:

- Leon Hall
- AJ
- Andy
- Whitworth himself

I can go on for days.

(08-25-2018, 12:08 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: If they (Atkins & Dunlap) get extensions I will definitely say something positive.  The team knew what they were doing wrong and still did it by letting Withworth & Z go.  Sanu & M. Jones is another great pair we lost.  Their draft experiments have failed to replace all four of them. It's no wonder other teams keep the bengals phone number on speed dial.

For reference:  https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/2/13/14587898/what-if-bengals-lose-whitworth-zeitler-and-kirkpatrick

(08-25-2018, 12:08 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: If they (Atkins & Dunlap) get extensions I will definitely say something positive.  The team knew what they were doing wrong and still did it by letting Withworth & Z go.  Sanu & M. Jones is another great pair we lost.  Their draft experiments have failed to replace all four of them. It's no wonder other teams keep the bengals phone number on speed dial.

For reference:  https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/2/13/14587898/what-if-bengals-lose-whitworth-zeitler-and-kirkpatrick

(08-22-2018, 01:16 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Great post Racer, should be a fun season watching this rotation.

Have to give Paulie G a little cred in changing this thought process and finally drafting shorter, lighter, quicker Ends.

He was the one who said it doesn't matter how big they are if they cannot do the job and he was correct.

Liking what Austin has been doing here and hey, even my Haslett hate has died down a bit with the emergence of
Evans and Vigil.

(08-25-2018, 01:54 PM)XsandOs Wrote: That's been the mentality for some time here. When Hugh Jackson came back from Oakland, he commented about how much the Bengals have changed. He said he was amazed at how much taller the players were, especially at DE.

That's why Hunt and Clark were drafted and MJ was brought back. It made sense when Steelers had those behemoth, steroid enhanced offensive lines.

(08-25-2018, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, it just doesn't matter if they have no bend and cannot get to the QB like MJ, Hunt and Clark shown.

Hence drafting playmakers regardless of size is the way to go.

Lawson, Willis and Hubbard can do the job that those types cannot.

(08-25-2018, 09:34 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: And from 2017:  

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 13 (ARI): John Ross, WR, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford (A-)
Round 2 Pick 13 (ARI): Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B-)
Round 3 Pick 9: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 9: Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 31 (COMP): Elijah Lee, OLB, Kansas State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 9: D.J. Jones, DT, Ole Miss (C-)
Round 5 Pick 32 (COMP): Ifeadi Odenigbo, DE, Northwestern (D)
Round 6 Pick 9: Damien Mama, OG, Southern California (C-)
Round 6 Pick 33 (COMP): Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (B)
Round 7 Pick 9: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (B+)
Round 7 Pick 33 (COMP): Pita Taumoepenu, OLB, Utah (D)

(08-26-2018, 10:35 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Wow.  Don't know why you aren't working fior the Bengals.  That way we could have gotten first round picks like Mccaffert and Conley in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Look, I used to spend a lot of time in the draft forum.  I know exactly how it works.  Guys like you use 20/20 hindsight to criticize the bengals picks, but if you go back and look at their pre-draft picks they are no better than any NFL team.  Instead they just use selective memory to act like they would have made better picks than the Bengals.

Same things happens with decisions the Bengals coaching staff makes on Sundays.  Fans use hindsight to decide if the right call was made.

(08-26-2018, 01:39 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I guarantee you  some Bengals fAns have hit on more draft picks than the Bengals have.  

(08-26-2018, 01:39 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I guarantee you  some Bengals fAns have hit on more draft picks than the Bengals have.  Besides the interviews we all have the same game tape as the players. And it’s football you don’t need to have a biochemical engineering major to see who has great instincts , has football speed etc.

(08-26-2018, 01:55 PM)Beaker Wrote: Nope. Some will say they have. Some also may have gotten lucky in a specific year. But over time, the Bengals have been far more consistent at picking talent than anyone on these forums.

(08-26-2018, 01:39 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: I guarantee you  some Bengals fAns have hit on more draft picks than the Bengals have.  Besides the interviews we all have the same game tape as the players. And it’s football you don’t need to have a biochemical engineering major to see who has great instincts , has football speed etc.

(08-26-2018, 02:33 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Tremendous job of scouting in 2015.  Ogbuehi n Fisher were amazing picks.  Glad all that scouting paid off.  I guarantee you a bunch of us hated those picks as soon as they were made, well except for the Bengal fans who act like Bengals can do no wrong.  Both those scrubs were not that great in college and had the size of a over grown TE who had no base to play tackle.  Common sense would help. You guys give them way too much credit , fans are smarter than you think. Well except for jackeypoo he seems little off. Jk

(08-26-2018, 02:33 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Tremendous job of scouting in 2015.  Ogbuehi n Fisher were amazing picks.  Glad all that scouting paid off.  I guarantee you a bunch of us hated those picks as soon as they were made, well except for the Bengal fans who act like Bengals can do no wrong.  Both those scrubs were not that great in college and had the size of a over grown TE who had no base to play tackle.  Common sense would help. You guys give them way too much credit , fans are smarter than you think. Well except for jackeypoo he seems little off. Jk

(08-26-2018, 10:35 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Wow.  Don't know why you aren't working fior the Bengals.  That way we could have gotten first round picks like Mccaffert and Conley in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Look, I used to spend a lot of time in the draft forum.  I know exactly how it works.  Guys like you use 20/20 hindsight to criticize the bengals picks, but if you go back and look at their pre-draft picks they are no better than any NFL team.  Instead they just use selective memory to act like they would have made better picks than the Bengals.

Same things happens with decisions the Bengals coaching staff makes on Sundays.  Fans use hindsight to decide if the right call was made.

(08-26-2018, 03:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Great hind sight, but just that. Who were you exact picks you selected at the same time the Bengals turned in their card (pick) knowing who was available. My guess is you did not offer ahead of time your picks for all 7 rounds and updated them as the draft progressed and guys were on the board unexpectedly or gone unexpectedly when you did your board. Actually my guess you did little homework, relied on others for your analysis and did not scout or talk to one draft pick.

But, why don't we do this, next year we do an online Bengals only draft, fans can choose the player available for every pick prior to them announcing it. Then we can save it and see all of the genius fans out there so we can recommend ML and Katie hire them for future drafts. 

(08-26-2018, 09:27 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: They did shitty.  Just admit it. I remember I wanted Brown DT that Patriots drafted , not sure how’s he’s doing but think he’s a starter.  And in round 2 I wanted Wr Lockett who kinda sucked ass last year but was good the year before. I don’t understand the full butt hurt some of you get.  We are just fans rooting for a football team.  Unless mike brown or Ogbuehi is related to you i Find it silly  Sone get so offended that some fans don’t like certain players. Nothing personal Iv never met MJ, Ogbuehi or Fisher but they all suck at the sport of football.  Calm down dude have a beer. It’s ok that admit the Bengals did something wrong, I’ll still call you a fan.