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RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - GMDino - 08-20-2019 Well, this is awkward. (BOLD mine) https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/458135-trump-jews-that-vote-democrat-show-lack-of-knowledge-or-great Quote:Trump: Jews who vote Democrat show 'lack of knowledge or great disloyalty' As a side note does anyone think DJT really knows what "vicious" means? And why does he only use it to describe women who disagree with him? Anyway he just couldn't stay quiet and let Omar take any heat because he has to make it about him...and he promptly put his foot right in his tiny little mouth. He's a loser. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - Dill - 08-21-2019 (08-19-2019, 06:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Just because you want to draw an equivalency doesn't mean your equivalency should be accepted or even acknowledged as remotely the same. Of course, you argument would have slightly more credibility if the chants of "Death to Israel" and pictures of mushroom clouds wasn't expressed at every Al Quds day. Heck, I even think such chants are made in the Iranian parliament. I seem to recall threats being made to "wipe Israel off the map". I am not an editor of Hamshahri. Can you specify where I draw an equivalency between "mocking the Holocaust" and "drawing a picture of a guy"? RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-24-2019 Figured this could go here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ilhan-omar-misquotes-article-falsely-185533228.html At least she was forthright enough to post: *almost died RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - BmorePat87 - 10-25-2019 (10-24-2019, 08:43 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Figured this could go here: Good to see that they actually corrected it. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 08:35 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Good to see that they actually corrected it. Meh, you can applaud the forthrightness if you want, but not sure it's Trump's fault as she suggested. Also do we have an evidence that the child *almost died? RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - BmorePat87 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 11:43 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Meh, you can applaud the forthrightness if you want, but not sure it's Trump's fault as she suggested. Also do we have an evidence that the child *almost died? I don't know and I don't really care. I just want to comment that it's good to see people correct errors. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - GMDino - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 12:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I don't know and I don't really care. I just want to comment that it's good to see people correct errors. I wish we'd see more of it. Or more people pointing out when they are NOT corrected. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 12:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I don't know and I don't really care. I just want to comment that it's good to see people correct errors. of course that's the point she didn't correct her error, she just changed dies to *almost died. No mention of the issue was state regulations and the parent failing to register. Personally I don't like made up BS no matter who the source is. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - fredtoast - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 02:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No mention of the issue was state regulations and the parent failing to register. Personally I don't like made up BS no matter who the source is. You are the one "making up BS" when you claim there was "no mention of the parent failing to register". This is a direct quote from the article “I’ve been on this emotional roller coaster,” Ms. Johnson, 34, said of Elijah’s loss of coverage, an error that happened apparently because she didn’t respond quickly enough to a letter asking for new proof of income. “It’s been a very scary month.” If you actually read it you will also find stuff like this. In 2010, the Affordable Care Act made it easier for states to check whether families qualified for Medicaid without requiring them to fill out paperwork, a strategy proven to increase coverage rates. The A.C.A. also made it harder for states to expel poor families for paperwork errors. The changes helped the uninsured rate among children reach its in 2016, with fewer than 5 percent without coverage. Trump administration officials have not explicitly tried to limit children’s Medicaid coverage. But Ms. Verma has repeatedly encouraged state officials to safeguard “program integrity,” by doing more vigorous checks of enrollees’ eligibility. More recently, her office reviewed the reductions and concluded that problems with state computer systems may be a factor in some places. History has shown that when states require more paperwork from Medicaid beneficiaries, more eligible people fall through the cracks Medicaid beneficiaries tend to move often; to have unstable hours and incomes; and to have literacy challenges that can make it hard to submit detailed renewal packages or verify their incomes frequently. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 03:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are the one "making up BS" when you claim there was "no mention of the parent failing to register". This is a direct quote from the article I did read the article, but of course I was referring to Omar's tweet and her "correction" of it. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - GMDino - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 03:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are the one "making up BS" when you claim there was "no mention of the parent failing to register". This is a direct quote from the article I don't wanna ruin my "reputation" around here but I think bfine meant Talib didn't mention the state and tried to pin the event on Trump. Not that the article itself didn't. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - BmorePat87 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 02:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: of course that's the point she didn't correct her error, she just changed dies to *almost died. No mention of the issue was state regulations and the parent failing to register. Personally I don't like made up BS no matter who the source is. I’m encouraged to see the change of heart. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - fredtoast - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 03:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I did read the article, but of course I was referring to Omar's tweet and her "correction" of it. And I was referring to this. . . (10-25-2019, 02:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No mention of the issue was state regulations and the parent failing to register. When I posted this. . . (10-25-2019, 03:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are the one "making up BS" when you claim there was "no mention of the parent failing to register". This is a direct quote from the article RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - fredtoast - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 03:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: I don't wanna ruin my "reputation" around here but I think bfine meant Talib didn't mention the state and tried to pin the event on Trump. Not that the article itself didn't. The State action was in response to suggestions made by the Trump administration. "Ms. Verma has repeatedly encouraged state officials to safeguard “program integrity,” by doing more vigorous checks of enrollees’ eligibility." The more hoops, hurdles, and additional paperwork they put between the applicants and the benefits the more people fall off the rolls. "History has shown that when states require more paperwork from Medicaid beneficiaries, more eligible people fall through the cracks Medicaid beneficiaries tend to move often; to have unstable hours and incomes; and to have literacy challenges that can make it hard to submit detailed renewal packages or verify their incomes frequently." RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-25-2019 (10-25-2019, 06:39 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Everyone knows what you were referring to. That's why folks understand you were wrong in your little rant. Hell you most likely know you were wrong. Unless you can show me where Omar tweeted state policies and the mothers failure to register caused this child to *almost die RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - fredtoast - 10-26-2019 (10-25-2019, 07:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Unless you can show me where Omar tweeted state policies and the mothers failure to register caused this child to *almost die The article was part of her tweet. She was the one who posted the link to it. And the article says that the Trump administrations policy of promoting more paperwork and hurdles IS part of the reason children are losing coverage. People are trying to blame "state" policies and ignore that those policies are the result of policies promoted by the Trump administration. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-26-2019 (10-26-2019, 11:26 AM)fredtoast Wrote: The article was part of her tweet. She was the one who posted the link to it. Okey Dokey, I'll just add you to Pat in thinking Omar's tweet was correct. For those willing to look at it subjectively here's the only time Trump is mentioned in the article in the tweet Quote:Trump administration officials have not explicitly tried to limit children’s Medicaid coverage. But Ms. Verma has repeatedly encouraged state officials to safeguard “program integrity,” by doing more vigorous checks of enrollees’ eligibility. More recently, her office reviewed the reductions and concluded that problems with state computer systems may be a factor in some places. This child didn't have coverage because the mother failed to follow state regulations. But I understand why you'd stand behind a tweet that states Trump kills (*almost kills) baby, RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - fredtoast - 10-26-2019 (10-26-2019, 01:43 PM)bfine32 Wrote: For those willing to look at it subjectively here's the only time Trump is mentioned in the article in the tweet Exactly, but you have to put that comment in context. The article also says this: "History has shown that when states require more paperwork from Medicaid beneficiaries, more eligible people fall through the cracks Medicaid beneficiaries tend to move often; to have unstable hours and incomes; and to have literacy challenges that can make it hard to submit detailed renewal packages or verify their incomes frequently." It is the same deal with voter ID laws. Everyone knows, and republican politicians have even admitted, that their purpose is to suppress the vote of the poor and disadvantaged. But you always refuse to acknowledge that is true also. The more hoops and hurdles Trump gets states to put between applicants and benefits the more children will lose insurance. RE: Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib - bfine32 - 10-26-2019 (10-26-2019, 02:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Exactly, but you have to put that comment in context. The article also says this: I surrender....the article clearly shows the lapse of insurance was because of state laws and this mother's failure to follow state requirements. It further explains how some states are more strict than others, hell even the piece you quoted says state laws; no mention of federal requirements. Throw in the fact that when you first accused me of spouting BS in this thread you were quick to point out how state requirements were the point of the article. When I tried to clear up your confusion and let you know (what everyone else already knew) that my issue was with the tweet and not the article, you tried to establish Plan B and show how the article points to Federal requirements, There is no debating that "logic" and history has shown continuing down this path is fruitless. |