(11-13-2019, 04:33 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Those making the point of maybe Taylor is more like Coach X instead of Shula, sure he could be.
But do you want to wait potentially years to find out? If so, how long?
I think there's a shelf life of no more than 3 years.

(11-13-2019, 04:37 PM)Au165 Wrote: Right, I am all for 3 years or bust, hell I'd be okay with two years if it's as bad as this year. My point is there are people calling for him to be fired after 10 games, that is basically the narrative of this thread. Teams who fire coaches mid year, or after one year, become toxic to future coaching candidates. We are already a toxic destination due to the ownership of this team so throwing more gas on the fire is not going to net us a better coach. 

(11-13-2019, 04:37 PM)Au165 Wrote: Right, I am all for 3 years or bust, hell I'd be okay with two years if it's as bad as this year. My point is there are people calling for him to be fired after 10 games, that is basically the narrative of this thread. Teams who fire coaches mid year, or after one year, become toxic to future coaching candidates. We are already a toxic destination due to the ownership of this team so throwing more gas on the fire is not going to net us a better coach. 

(11-13-2019, 04:41 PM)jason Wrote: That's my only concern with firing him, but I think it's gonna be a long 3 years if we don't. Missing on HC and QB is devastating for a franchise... For years.

I think we've whiffed on this one. Now let's see how the QB situation goes. Anybody but Marvin and Dalton though; right?

(11-13-2019, 04:37 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think the things I see are:

1 ) This roster shouldn't have 0 wins.
2 ) Taylor was hired for his offensive mind...and he's a TERRIBLE playcaller.

So what elite coaching skills does he have?

(11-13-2019, 04:43 PM)ochocincos Wrote: QB coach is about the only thing, but do we know how good he is at that based on Finley or do we need to wait and see with a 1st or 2nd round draft pick?

(11-13-2019, 04:32 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Zac isn't the only 1st year HC with a losing record that's getting fired.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/adam-gase-isnt-going-anywhere-says-jets-boss-christopher-johnson/ar-BBWHUTD?ocid=spartandhp

(11-13-2019, 05:47 PM)Synric Wrote: How many years is these guys contracts?

Right now the Bengals are paying this years coaches and last years coaches. I say at worst let them coach out their contract get out from under it and then they will have more money to lure a better HC if Zac doesnt get it down in that period of time.

(11-13-2019, 05:42 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: He got the two most sought after FAs in Bell and Mosley. While Zac got Hart and Brown.

(11-12-2019, 06:31 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Watching the Niners play last night and think back to the glory days of Ryan Hewitt I asked myself: "Self, if our oline cannot open lanes for the RB why don't we use a Fullback?" I had no answer for myself.

(11-13-2019, 12:14 PM)Okeana Wrote: Worst draft in years of terrible drafts, one of the worst seasons in the history of the Bengals, no positive moves for developing for the future, and supporting coaching staff are washed up Dolphin's coordinators.  What else does it take to get fired in this league?  

The real shit stain on this team is Duke Tobin and how he hasn't been fired after years of terrible drafts is beyond me.

(11-13-2019, 04:37 PM)Au165 Wrote: Right, I am all for 3 years or bust, hell I'd be okay with two years if it's as bad as this year. My point is there are people calling for him to be fired after 10 games, that is basically the narrative of this thread. Teams who fire coaches mid year, or after one year, become toxic to future coaching candidates. We are already a toxic destination due to the ownership of this team so throwing more gas on the fire is not going to net us a better coach. 

(11-13-2019, 07:19 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: I want Zac fired with the rest of his god awful staff.

What I want, and what will happen are miles apart.

This team always and I do mean always makes moves in slow motion.

That's why they constantly F themselves and take us along for the ride.

Even when almost everything is in place, but they have that one glaring need, they work at a snails pace to react.

So yeah.  We're gonna ride this shitshow out and to the ground.

The real question is... who is going to be around when the ZT era finally ends?

I'm really curious how many fans will fall off this time?

As much as I slam on the Browns they have a fan base that mightily holds on.

Our fans quit going and watching when the Bengals stink.

What we are watching right now might just be the demise of a large chunk of the fan base for good.

(11-13-2019, 09:37 PM)BengalChris Wrote: I was a Paul Brown fan. That has kept me with the Bengals a long, long time.

However, I no longer believe the team will ever return to being glorious and with that lack of belief I'm slipping away from this team rather quickly. Mike Brown sours me at every turn.

I have my Buckeyes, of which I am an alumni. They are consistently much better to watch and better run. They also execute the game of football significantly better than do the professional team. That is truly a sad statement.

 

(11-13-2019, 09:29 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Oh, okay, let's keep him on for 5 years like MB did with Dave Shula.

How toxic do you think it will be then?

 

(11-13-2019, 03:00 PM)BengalChris Wrote: First off, Taylor deserves to be fired. He's obviously in way over his head. Hiring him was a mistake, obviously. Why not just get it over with.

Secondly, the season is lost.

Thirdly, you have to get better coaches in next season as it is, so start making your list now. To get the right coach the front office is going to have to make some changes as no one wants to work for this team as it is. Might as well confront that fact right now.

Or, the team could just stay its course and suck for the next decade just like it did in the 90s.