(05-03-2024, 07:43 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Could depend on Burton.  If he hits the ground as an exceptional player Zac will stick to 3-wide.  He has said numerous times that the 3 WRs he had were our best players/options on offense so we were going to play them. 

Also, how are they playing Gesicki?  Is he actually a slot receiver much more so than a traditional TE?

If All is not healthy, Sample is still the only blocking TE.   Burton, All, and McLachlan could all take time to adjust and develop.

It will be interesting to see how Zac and Pitcher design the offense for sure. 

(05-06-2024, 10:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: FWIW, Hudson did ok blocking last year in limited snaps.
Sample and Wilcox were just better.

I have to think they might have Hudson block more this season if All is not active, especially as TE3/4.

(05-06-2024, 04:06 PM)casear2727 Wrote: According to his coach he is not a good or willing blocker, at least he was not at the level Casey expected at a certain point during last season.  James Casey was surprisingly blunt regarding Hudson during the interview in which he made the comments.  It may have been on Lapham's show. 

It will be interesting to see how the TE room shakes out. 

(05-06-2024, 04:10 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Can you find the link to the coach making these comments about Hudson's blocking?
I had not heard, but I don't listen to any podcasts. I used to listen to Locked On Bengals, but podcasts are hard to keep up with personally.

(05-06-2024, 04:32 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: It's like too much cowbell.

No such thing.

Hope they carry four, with Sample developing into a better dump pass outlet, become the current rosters equivalent of Reggie Kelly.

(05-03-2024, 04:04 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: All good points, makes us less predictable as well. We will run a ton of 3 wide still I am sure, but I think 2 TE sets will be happening a lot
more now with all these additions, at least once All is healthy and McLachlan gains experience. I like Hudson but I don't think he has a 
chance once All is healthy, McLachlan is the better talent and is younger.

Gesicki this year could have a great year and will be paid by somebody else if this happens.

(05-06-2024, 04:17 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Like I said, I think it was on one of Lapham's shows if I had to guess.  

(05-06-2024, 09:05 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They are going to use Chase and Gesicki a ton in the slot. They hope Burton is a deep threat. But I’m sure he’s going to have to make teams pay first. I doubt we see Gesicki as a TE unless there are 2 or they go to 01 and use Sample as an HBack. Sample is so good on picking up blitzes. Him protecting and those 4 to cover would be a load.

(05-06-2024, 09:05 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They are going to use Chase and Gesicki a ton in the slot. They hope Burton is a deep threat. But I’m sure he’s going to have to make teams pay first. I doubt we see Gesicki as a TE unless there are 2 or they go to 01 and use Sample as an HBack. Sample is so good on picking up blitzes. Him protecting and those 4 to cover would be a load.

(05-07-2024, 10:32 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I personally am all for more 12 personnel.
Bengals used a heavy 11 personnel because of the WRs they had, but now Boyd is gone.
If you got Gesicki who can essentially act as a big slot and get one of Sample, Hudson, or McLachlan some playing time too, that sounds good to me.

(05-07-2024, 12:29 PM)tms Wrote: I personally don't expect All to play this year. His body's been through the rigor the past few years and they'll take their time getting him up to snuff, especially with McLachlan around. I don't think they were ever planning to onboard two rookies at the same time. I see him as a draft and stash but they won't reveal that for a few months. I guess we'll see.

(05-07-2024, 02:04 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Highly doubt they used a 4th round pick on a guy that they didn't intend to play at all as a rookie.

But still, Erick All is a talent and with the additions we certainly do not need to hurry him which is nice.

(05-07-2024, 05:31 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Bengals could have basically considered Jackson their true 4th rounder since he was 3rd round comp and considered All a luxury gamble and ok if he doesn't actually play as a rookie.
They have made some selections on injured players with the sole intent they rehab their first year and come on board in Year 2, like Jonah.

(05-07-2024, 10:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I saw that, but I'm not gonna go scrounge around looking for the specific one, if it's even one of his.
If you had the link I would listen.

(05-07-2024, 06:38 PM)casear2727 Wrote: If you aren't going to scrounge around looking for it, why should I?  I already heard it.  

Joe Burrow is working a lot with Mike Gesicki between reps. A lot.

At times is literally walking him through his breaks step-by-step.

— Joe Danneman (@FOX19Joe) May 7, 2024

(05-08-2024, 11:44 AM)Synric Wrote:

Joe Burrow is working a lot with Mike Gesicki between reps. A lot.

At times is literally walking him through his breaks step-by-step.

— Joe Danneman (@FOX19Joe) May 7, 2024

(05-08-2024, 12:57 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The good news is Bengals could stash All on IR, the bad news is if they do, he can't practice until he is removed from IR.

My guess right now we will know more if All participates in training camp and preseason. If he is shelved, tough for a rookie TE to play if no camp and no practice learning the offense and getting timing with Joe B.

(05-08-2024, 12:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think Joe B. is related to have Gesicki. He is arguably the best TE pass catching weapon he has had both in college and the NFL.