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RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - StLucieBengal - 08-12-2015
(08-12-2015, 09:20 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Since when was torture considered good parenting?
Haha
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - GMDino - 08-12-2015
(08-12-2015, 08:50 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes I did. We are raising proper girls. obviously you don't understand what the definition of proper girls.
We are raising ladies, not women who you can have a beer chugging contest. While throwing down a pile of chicken wings .
Stop worrying about what is or isn't implied. How you raise your kids is up to you. I never made one statement about how others need to change their methods.
So no pants? No "boy toys"?
We already know they better stay trim for their man.
What else constitutes "ladies"?
My wife is feminine but she like a good beer. Sometimes we even drink a couple Long Island Iced Teas and throw back some wings. Is she not a "proper girl"? Well she does work outside the home....and almost never wears a skirt or dress to work.
Can you instruct me?
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-12-2015, 08:50 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I never made one statement about how others need to change their methods.
Yes you did. As soon as you said you were doing it the proper way then that meant other people's methods were improper.
BTW you are the one doing it wrong. Raising your girls to believe that they are limited in what they can do is poor parenting. You are raising them to be submissive victims. They are being taught that they can never do the same things as boys. And that is juts sad.
I am raising my girls to belueve that they can do whatever they want. If they want to just do "rirly things" then that is fine. But they are going to be strong and confident that they can do whatever they want while your girls will be timid, weak, and afraid to try anything that you tell them is "improper".
But I guess that is pretty common way of doing things among men like you who are intimidated by women with confidence.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - StLucieBengal - 08-13-2015
(08-12-2015, 09:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: So no pants? No "boy toys"?
We already know they better stay trim for their man.
What else constitutes "ladies"?
My wife is feminine but she like a good beer. Sometimes we even drink a couple Long Island Iced Teas and throw back some wings. Is she not a "proper girl"? Well she does work outside the home....and almost never wears a skirt or dress to work.
Can you instruct me?
I am sure your wife is perfect for you . And I am happy that your happy.
Not quite sure why your paranoid about how I raise my kids enough to where your involving your wife's eating and drinking habits.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - StLucieBengal - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 01:52 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Yes you did. As soon as you said you were doing it the proper way then that meant other people's methods were improper.
BTW you are the one doing it wrong. Raising your girls to believe that they are limited in what they can do is poor parenting. You are raising them to be submissive victims. They are being taught that they can never do the same things as boys. And that is juts sad.
I am raising my girls to belueve that they can do whatever they want. If they want to just do "rirly things" then that is fine. But they are going to be strong and confident that they can do whatever they want while your girls will be timid, weak, and afraid to try anything that you tell them is "improper".
But I guess that is pretty common way of doing things among men like you who are intimidated by women with confidence.
I don't think any of you know the definition of a proper lady.
It doesn't mean be a submissive.
It's quite comical that you all assume that somehow I am oppressing my kids.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - GMDino - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 02:30 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I am sure your wife is perfect for you . And I am happy that your happy.
Not quite sure why your paranoid about how I raise my kids enough to where your involving your wife's eating and drinking habits.
Well you said you wouldn't raise a lady (or a "proper girl") who chugs beer and throws down wings. I wondered what that meant of my wife and friends who DO do that.
(08-13-2015, 02:37 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I don't think any of you know the definition of a proper lady.
It doesn't mean be a submissive.
It's quite comical that you all assume that somehow I am oppressing my kids.
You are quite good at giving labels to people and then not defining what the heck you mean by them or defending your label of them other than to call them that again. Are you secretly Donald Trump?
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - Donnyho - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 02:37 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It's quite comical that you all assume that somehow I am oppressing my kids.
To be fair, your examples of "raising proper girls" seem to be what you are stopping them from doing, not what you're encouraging them to do.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 02:37 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It's quite comical that you all assume that somehow I am oppressing my kids.
You have already made it clear that you will refuse to let them do some things that they may want to do.
Refusing to let them have all the choices they want is oppression.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 02:37 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I don't think any of you know the definition of a proper lady.
A proper lady has the confidence to try whatever she wants.
It is improper to tell women they are limited and incapable of doing whatever they want to.
What is your definition of a proper lady.
BTW I realize that this is just more trolling, but at least it is a new topic to discuss.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - bfine32 - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 10:28 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Refusing to let them have all the choices they want is oppression.
Some folks call it parenting. I know when my children were growing up I did not always let them choose whatever they wanted. They were children.
For instance if given the choice early in their education they would have selected to stay home and watch cartoons all day instead of going to school.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - BmorePat87 - 08-13-2015
Daddies, don't let your daughters grow up to be doctors
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - GMDino - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 10:33 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Some folks call it parenting. I know when my children were growing up I did not always let them choose whatever they wanted. They were children.
For instance if given the choice early in their education they would have selected to stay home and watch cartoons all day instead of going to school.
Did you only let them play with "gender specific" toys? Probably not.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - djs7685 - 08-13-2015
Just to get this one thing established, we all realize that you're very likely (literally) mentally ******** if you need color designation to show you which toys and clothes are "for girls" and which are "for boys", right?
I mean, 70% of the posts in this thread just can't be serious.
The whole "proper girl" argument is straight trolling. How is this shit remotely acceptable in the year 2015? What mongoloids.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 10:33 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Some folks call it parenting. I know when my children were growing up I did not always let them choose whatever they wanted. They were children.
For instance if given the choice early in their education they would have selected to stay home and watch cartoons all day instead of going to school.
Way to completely miss the point.
No one was talking about letting children make bad choices. Instead we were all talking about enforcing sexual stereotypes.
Again, it looks like everyone else got it except you. Unless you feel that refusing to let girls do "boy things" is just "proper parenting". Feel free to give your opinion on the subject now that you understand what we are talking about.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - djs7685 - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 10:58 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Way to completely miss the point.
No one was talking about letting children make bad choices. Instead we were all talking about enforcing sexual stereotypes.
Again, it looks like everyone else got it except you. Unless you feel that refusing to let girls do "boy things" is just "proper parenting". Feel free to give your opinion on the subject now that you understand what we are talking about.
I can't believe we have to sit here and actually discuss how 1. Going to school vs watching cartoons and not getting an education can be anywhere near relative to 2. Playing with a GI Joe vs playing with a Barbie and 3. Eating chicken wings vs not eating chicken wings.
For some reason, I feel that two of those are unlike the other.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - bfine32 - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 10:58 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Way to completely miss the point.
No one was talking about letting children make bad choices. Instead we were all talking about enforcing sexual stereotypes.
Again, it looks like everyone else got it except you. Unless you feel that refusing to let girls do "boy things" is just "proper parenting". Feel free to give your opinion on the subject now that you understand what we are talking about.
My bad I simply read posts such as the one below and did not realize we we restricting it to sexual stereotypes:
fredtoast Wrote:Yes you did. As soon as you said you were doing it the proper way then that meant other people's methods were improper.
BTW you are the one doing it wrong. Raising your girls to believe that they are limited in what they can do is poor parenting. You are raising them to be submissive victims. They are being taught that they can never do the same things as boys. And that is juts sad.
I am raising my girls to belueve that they can do whatever they want. If they want to just do "rirly things" then that is fine. But they are going to be strong and confident that they can do whatever they want while your girls will be timid, weak, and afraid to try anything that you tell them is "improper".
But I guess that is pretty common way of doing things among men like you who are intimidated by women with confidence.
As to the restricted topic: Yes, I did instill some gender stereotypes in my children; I must admit it is limited as I had only boys.
For instance, along while back my son had his girlfriend over once. When it was time to go home, he walked her to the door and said bye. That was the last time he didn't escort her to the car or walk her home if she were on foot. If he was returning from her house, the escort was not required. Not sure if that meant the parents were raising the girl to be weak or not.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - bfine32 - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 11:14 AM)djs7685 Wrote: I can't believe we have to sit here and actually discuss how 1. Going to school vs watching cartoons and not getting an education can be anywhere near relative to 2. Playing with a GI Joe vs playing with a Barbie and 3. Eating chicken wings vs not eating chicken wings.
For some reason, I feel that two of those are unlike the other.
No one is forcing you to discuss anything.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 11:40 AM)bfine32 Wrote: If he was returning from her house, the escort was not required. Not sure if that meant the parents were raising the girl to be weak or not.
If her parents said she could not leave the house without a male escort then yes, but doesn't sound like that was the case.
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - djs7685 - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 11:41 AM)bfine32 Wrote: No one is forcing you to discuss anything.
No shit
I guess when you don't have much of a legitimate rebuttal, the only thing you can do is make a smartass comment that's intentionally avoiding the basis of the post.
So, do you think there could just be a LITTLE bit of a difference between going to school/not going to school and eating chicken wings/not eating chicken wings?
I'm pretty sure everybody would agree that "it's called parenting" if you force your kid to go to school and not be allowed to sit home watching cartoons all day instead. You can't make the leap with Lucie's absurd mindset though. He's free to raise his kids however he'd like, but the second he calls everybody else's "improper" is where there's a big issue. Making stupid, sexist comments like "Well if they want their girls to be boys then that lets their business." is just ridiculous and unnecessary. My daughter isn't going to "be a boy" because she does something that some sexist neanderthal deems isn't "for girls".
RE: Target removes gender based signage for kids - fredtoast - 08-13-2015
(08-13-2015, 11:41 AM)bfine32 Wrote: No one is forcing you to discuss anything.
Again you missed the point.
He wasn't saying the discussion should not be required. He was saying the explanation of such a simple point should not be required in order for you to understand what we were talking about.
I am starting to see a pattern here.