(06-01-2016, 10:52 PM)jason Wrote: My adult loved ones put themselves in that situation . That stranger's dog didn't. At any rate, I don't think that is a perfect analogy of what happened at the zoo. I actually don't disagree that the child's life didn't need saving. I can only guess how surreal that situation was to every person who saw it happen. Something had to be done, and drastic measures were taken. Hell the kid could have been hit by a bullet. That mother is to blame for it happening. Period. If anything is bring our society down, it's bad parenting. It sure as hell ain't people's love for animals. Not just any animal, but an animal that the Creator made very much like ourselves.

You posted  earlier that that it is a crime to confine an animal like that. It is in a way . It's complex though. The mountain gorilla is endangered... yada yada. The real crime is that kid falling umteen feet into a gorilla cage. Millions of other kids have not. It's happened before though. The gorilla cradled the injured child.

The mom sucks....

(06-02-2016, 01:32 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I didn't read all this, and I don't have any kids but I have to say that I'm pretty sure every one of us either managed to do something bad/dangerous/stupid when our parents weren't looking and/or our kids have done the same thing when we weren't looking.

My parents were both super protective and attentive to the point where I was convinced their sole purpose in life was to make sure I never had any fun, BUT I'd be lying if I told you my sister and I never ended up in the emergency room in our lives.

Maybe these parents were totally crap parents and this 4 year old was doomed sooner or later, but again, I've done stupid stuff in my life, I've turned my back for a single second and something I didn't want to happen, happened (nothing overly dangerous, but you know), and I'm sure we can all say the same thing.  It's just way too easy in this situation to assume that stuff like that would NEVER EVER happen to us and then get on our high horses.

I think it just comes down to us really wanting to believe bad things only happen to people who deserve it and/or really go out of their ways to have it happen.  We want to live in a world where that kid deserved to be in that situation because his mom was awful and let it happen.  Maybe that's what happened...I wasn't there.

(06-02-2016, 02:20 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: All these future helicopter parents are funny.  

To each their own and if that's your way of parenting then fine.   We all have to find our own way that we think works.

(06-02-2016, 05:14 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: I would consider taking my child to a brothel as you suggested prudent previously 'helicopter' parenting. But I'm not a POS either, so maybe I need to read a pamphlet of sorts to catch up. 

(06-02-2016, 11:35 AM)jason Wrote: What's a helicopter parent?

(06-02-2016, 12:04 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: A parent who is constantly hovering over their child.

(06-02-2016, 01:00 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Stay classy, Pittsburgh.

(06-02-2016, 12:06 PM)jason Wrote: Oh. I guess I'm more of a sniper parent. I got my eye on them. Even when they don't see me.

(06-02-2016, 01:45 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Sad thing is that some people would still say Vincenzo Williams life is more important than a gorilla. Anyways Harambe was born and raised in a Texas zoo for about 15 years before coming up to Cincy's zoo for breeding purposes.

(06-02-2016, 02:27 PM)Griever Wrote: from what i saw of the video, everything was cool till the crowd starting getting loud

and the gorilla dragged the kid, but he didnt look hurt

i just think they could have gone about it differently instead of shooting and killing him

(06-02-2016, 12:54 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: So it's nobody's fault.  Maybe the gorilla?  

No one is jump g to conclusions.  The kid got into the enclosure. It didn't happen in a 'second' as has been prized here, it happened across a multitude of seconds, probably a minute plus.  There are reports saying the kid was talking about going down there.  There are no reports of the gorilla grabbing the child and pulling him down into his enclosure. 

Apparently asking parents to be responsible for their toddlers is 'morally misguided'.  My 'outrage' (a gross mischaracterization itself) is based on facts known at this time. Admitted by the mother.  Conveyed by onlookers.  My commentary is on those who defend this sort of parental ineptness in an attempt to soothe their own rearing inadequacy . 

If the gorilla is found to be at fault I will make a $1000 contribution to the charity of your choice. 

(06-02-2016, 02:42 PM)Griever Wrote: stop #GorillaGenocide

(06-02-2016, 02:49 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I got my eye on you...