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RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-26-2016 (06-26-2016, 08:00 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yes and no. The UK has more sovereignty than any other member state. Immigration is the real issue for the UK, the rest of it was just an attempt at masking that, in my opinion. The UK had the best deal in the EU. Other countries could have legitimate other reasons to want to depart, whether is just be the sovereignty given up, or that and an added bonus of not having the political weight that the UK, France, Germany, and a couple of others have to get their own best interests addressed. I know France is on the list, and they are most like the UK in that immigration is the primary issue. This. Outside of paying money into the EU, the right to free range EU nations without a passport, and an over-sized vote in the EU for a country which never changed to the Euro currency, it is almost like they were never really there. The UK and the EU will carry on without each other. And, as I mentioned before, I see the UK having a future relationship with the EU like Norway. The bigger question may be, "What are the Scots going to do?" RE: Brexit Referendum Day - SunsetBengal - 06-26-2016 (06-26-2016, 08:22 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: This. Outside of paying money into the EU, the right to free range EU nations without a passport, and an over-sized vote in the EU for a country which never changed to the Euro currency, it is almost like they were never really there. Caber Toss! RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-26-2016 (06-26-2016, 08:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Caber Toss! I'm up for it! But make mine a 'small' please. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - bfine32 - 06-27-2016 (06-26-2016, 08:37 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I'm up for it! Got a hunch that your caper is already small RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 12:58 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Got a hunch that your caper is already small "Anybody else feel like a little giggle when I mention my fwiend, Biggus Dickus?" RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Rotobeast - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 01:40 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: "Anybody else feel like a little giggle when I mention my fwiend, Biggus Dickus?" I want to know more about Incontinentia Buttocks. On topic.... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/27/parliament_takes_axe_to_2nd_referendum_petition/ RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Belsnickel - 06-27-2016 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/brussels-rejects-boris-johnson-pipe-dream-over-single-market-access?CMP=share_btn_tw Sounds like even more of the claims by the leave side may be exposed as fallacious thinking. Quote:European diplomats have dismissed claims from Boris Johnson that the UK could negotiate access to the EU single market without obeying any of the rules. There is also some more about the claims from Johnson regarding the BDI and them calling him out on it. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-27-2016 RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Belsnickel - 06-27-2016 I think my biggest problem with the whole situation has been a big propaganda machine on both sides pushing out tons of misinformation. Those on the remain side really have no idea how things will shake out economically, which is really their biggest argument. This has never happened before and so it is difficult for economists to accurately predict. On the leave side, they made a lot of claims with no basis for as well. The 350 million quid claim, the immigration claims, all of that stuff is not rooted in fact. This is why I have a problem with politics these days, because this is becoming the norm. We have access to more information than ever before in the history of mankind yet we fall prey to campaigns designed to take advantage of the naivete and laziness of the average person. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Rotobeast - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 02:34 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I think my biggest problem with the whole situation has been a big propaganda machine on both sides pushing out tons of misinformation. Those on the remain side really have no idea how things will shake out economically, which is really their biggest argument. This has never happened before and so it is difficult for economists to accurately predict. On the leave side, they made a lot of claims with no basis for as well. The 350 million quid claim, the immigration claims, all of that stuff is not rooted in fact. I guess that's a good cue to share a link that a friend shared with me. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-26/civil-uprising-escalates-8th-eu-nation-threatens-referendum RE: Brexit Referendum Day - BengalHawk62 - 06-27-2016 http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/brexit-broken-promises/index.html RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Belsnickel - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 02:43 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I guess that's a good cue to share a link that a friend shared with me. See, I'm actually in favor of these votes. Member states should have periodic votes on whether they will or will not be a part of the EU. I also think the EU needs to rethink how it is going to exist. Trying to make the single market into this government for the continent wasn't the best move. This doesn't mean I am opposed to the EU as a whole, I just think that there should have been a line, and not a fine one, between the European market and the EU. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-27-2016 I just read where the EU is removing English translations from some of their transmittals. Thanks, Britain!!! Now, we here in the U.S. won't know what they are saying about us!!!!!1!!!11!!!! RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Rotobeast - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 03:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: See, I'm actually in favor of these votes. Member states should have periodic votes on whether they will or will not be a part of the EU. I also think the EU needs to rethink how it is going to exist. Trying to make the single market into this government for the continent wasn't the best move. This doesn't mean I am opposed to the EU as a whole, I just think that there should have been a line, and not a fine one, between the European market and the EU. Totally agree. The people deserve to be informed of a well defined plan and given the opportunity to make their decision. Sensationalism and deception have been rolling far too long. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - bfine32 - 06-27-2016 Belsnickle Wrote:I think my biggest problem with the whole situation has been a big propaganda machine on both sides pushing out tons of misinformation. Those on the remain side really have no idea how things will shake out economically, which is really their biggest argument. This has never happened before and so it is difficult for economists to accurately predict. On the leave side, they made a lot of claims with no basis for as well. The 350 million quid claim, the immigration claims, all of that stuff is not rooted in fact. (06-27-2016, 03:28 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Totally agree. What?!?!?!?! You mean these Brits might make false claims in order to obtain votes. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - jason - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 03:24 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I just read where the EU is removing English translations from some of their transmittals. The immigrant hordes that are flooding our country can translate for us.... ninja face. RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Bengalzona - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 04:02 PM)jason Wrote: The immigrant hordes that are flooding our country can translate for us.... ninja face. But...but.... They're not required to learn English. Now we'll never know!!! RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Millhouse - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 03:24 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I just read where the EU is removing English translations from some of their transmittals. Since when do us Americans care what those freeloaders off of our military might think? RE: Brexit Referendum Day - Rotobeast - 06-27-2016 (06-27-2016, 03:56 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What?!?!?!?! You mean these Brits might make false claims in order to obtain votes. Do you think anyone in The Hague might do such a thing, next ? RE: Brexit Referendum Day - bfine32 - 06-27-2016 (06-23-2016, 12:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Huge Soccer fan and I have no idea how leaving the EU would affect English soccer players playing in other countries. Hell Iceland just beat England in the Euros. |