(02-16-2017, 03:03 PM)xxlt Wrote: I was just kidding about him warming up in the bullpen (he doesn't have a clue and if he did he wouldn't warm up, he'd just be status quo). But you can look for him to be in (the Oval) office before the end of 2017.

(02-16-2017, 03:17 PM)hollodero Wrote: How exactly would that happen? (Hnoest curiosity.)

(02-16-2017, 03:27 PM)xxlt Wrote: Trump will be impeached and removed or resign, almost certainly. Pence also being impeached and removed or resigning (he may have known enough for this to happen even though some claim he is not a Trump confidant and is kept in the dark) would put Paul Ryan in the Presidency. On a lighter note, Betsy DeVos is only about 12 down the line of succession.

(02-16-2017, 03:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Looks like that Tin Foil stock is about to pay off.

(02-16-2017, 03:27 PM)xxlt Wrote: Trump will be impeached and removed or resign, almost certainly. Pence also being impeached and removed or resigning (he may have known enough for this to happen even though some claim he is not a Trump confidant and is kept in the dark) would put Paul Ryan in the Presidency. On a lighter note, Betsy DeVos is only about 12 down the line of succession.

(02-16-2017, 03:29 PM)xxlt Wrote: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump

Check this out Hollodero, and yes Mother Jones is a very left wing publication, but I am finding similar stuff in tabloids and even right wing news sources.

(02-16-2017, 04:11 PM)hollodero Wrote: OK. 
But wouldn't Pence nominate a Vice president of his own?

(02-16-2017, 03:58 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: For once, you and I agree on something political.





 


For as much as I would LOVE to see it happen.  Believe me, I would love to see it happen, the chances of this happening are slim to 1%.   Not very yugely. They are gonna have to find something else to hang on the orange Oompa-Loompa with small hands to get him outta the WH.

(02-16-2017, 04:26 PM)xxlt Wrote: Google some news articles from 1973... impeachment was IMPOSSIBLE and UNTHINKABLE

(02-16-2017, 03:40 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: So we're going to go from 1 President resigned in US history to 3 in less than 12 months?

(02-16-2017, 04:18 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Let's pretend like enough Congressional Republicans rallied behind supporting impeachment. There is no way in hell they'd throw Pence under the bus. He's one of them.

(02-16-2017, 03:40 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: So we're going to go from 1 President resigned in US history to 3 in less than 12 months?

(02-16-2017, 04:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You do realize Nixon wasn't impeached don't you?

(02-16-2017, 04:31 PM)xxlt Wrote: Oh, and a former aid to 3 Republican Presidents is calling for impeachment. But yeah, I'm crazy.

(02-16-2017, 04:34 PM)xxlt Wrote: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/house-begins-impeachment-of-nixon

I really don't care if that was an alternative fact, you didn't mean what you said, or you are just ignorant of history.

(02-16-2017, 04:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You do realize Nixon wasn't impeached don't you?

(02-16-2017, 04:34 PM)xxlt Wrote: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/house-begins-impeachment-of-nixon

I really don't care if that was an alternative fact, you didn't mean what you said, or you are just ignorant of history.

(02-16-2017, 04:11 PM)hollodero Wrote: OK. 
But wouldn't Pence nominate a Vice president of his own? One that would follow him after he got removed. Except if both men get removed at once, of course. In which case, OK. I once heard the speaker of the house would overtake if president and ice-president were unavailable at the same time (because of attacks or whatever emergency). I did not know the rule also applies if all of them get impeached.
Wouldn't new presidential elections follow if both men were impeached, though? No one ever voted Ryan into office, him running the show for several years anyway would seem, well, strange from a democratic standpoint. But I don't know, just wondering.
(And I see more and more signs that Trump won't stay in office, that I consider to be realistic. I am not so sure about Pence, though, as far as I know he didn't do anything legally wrong so far.)


Well. as of now, I focus on what's confirmed. In this article there are many "rumored" things and speculations. That very well might be credibly confirmed at some point, I think that is quite likely. At which point I won't be surprised and take these allegiations as a given. Right now, I still won't, though.
As you said, this is a very biased source. There's one point I agree with Trump defenders, I do not trust your media too much as well, especially when they report on unconfirmed stuff. Hardly any European does. (But not so much because they are red or blue, but generally very, say, "pro-america".)

And one more thing, this whole "Hillary was the victim of biased investigation" thing mentioned in the beginning  is not really the whole truth to me. Even sympathizers have to admit that this whole using a private server thing was a severe violation and not just a minor human blunder. That oppositional forces will overstate that is to be expected; every political opponent would gladly use it.

The ties of Trump to Russia, of course, seem pretty evident by now.