(02-28-2017, 12:46 PM)McC Wrote: And again it comes back to how well it is spent.  They spent less and won a SB.  We spent more and took ten steps back.

(02-28-2017, 01:41 PM)jj22 Wrote: Marvin Jones got his catches with a healthy Green. When Green was healthy, Lafell was non existent. Don't let those numbers fool you.

(02-28-2017, 11:21 AM)Au165 Wrote: I intially had an issue with it too, but after thinking about it more I can find the math. I am going to back into the math here, and honestly it does make sense if you are looking to the future. The issue is it doesn't take into account letting guys go on expiring deals and such.

I think we will need around 9 million in cap for our draft picks when taking comp picks into account. That moves us down to roughly 35 Million in cap. Assume we are pulling out our pool for resigning Eiffert and Burfict next year, you can conservatively assume they will combine for 17 Million. This takes us down to around 18 Million in cap and the difference may be them pulling out money for UDFA and such along with their "injury" pool.

I think the big discrepancy is they are all ready earmarking funds for Burfict and Eiffert which they should, but Fans don't anticipate that. Now they could save money for next year by back loading those deals, but with their injury histories I'd take the big cap hit on them next year to save you if things go south later.

(02-28-2017, 01:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: Huh? That was Jones stats this year in Detroit. The best ability is availability and he has struggled with that his whole career.

(02-28-2017, 01:45 PM)jj22 Wrote: Oh ok. I thought those were his stat his last year here. Some are saying the replacement was a success because of the numbers, and we didn't miss Jones. My bad.

(02-28-2017, 11:21 AM)Au165 Wrote: I intially had an issue with it too, but after thinking about it more I can find the math. I am going to back into the math here, and honestly it does make sense if you are looking to the future. The issue is it doesn't take into account letting guys go on expiring deals and such.

I think we will need around 9 million in cap for our draft picks when taking comp picks into account. That moves us down to roughly 35 Million in cap. Assume we are pulling out our pool for resigning Eiffert and Burfict next year, you can conservatively assume they will combine for 17 Million. This takes us down to around 18 Million in cap and the difference may be them pulling out money for UDFA and such along with their "injury" pool.

I think the big discrepancy is they are all ready earmarking funds for Burfict and Eiffert which they should, but Fans don't anticipate that. Now they could save money for next year by back loading those deals, but with their injury histories I'd take the big cap hit on them next year to save you if things go south later.

(02-28-2017, 01:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If they are holding back THAT much money for Eifert and Burfict, that's a problem. I'm sorry, but I'd prioritize Zeitler over Eifert. Sure, Eifert is an impact player when he's on the field, but he's missed so many games due to injury. Plus, he's not quite as good as Gronkowski, so he doesn't deserve $10+ million a year.

(02-28-2017, 01:51 PM)Au165 Wrote: That was assuming we can get him for the second tier TE price of 8.5-9.

(02-28-2017, 01:54 PM)ochocincos Wrote: IMO Eifert still isn't worth that.

(02-28-2017, 01:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If they are holding back THAT much money for Eifert and Burfict, that's a problem. I'm sorry, but I'd prioritize Zeitler over Eifert. Sure, Eifert is an impact player when he's on the field, but he's missed so many games due to injury. Plus, he's not quite as good as Gronkowski, so he doesn't deserve $10+ million a year.

(02-28-2017, 01:50 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: The Bengals will probably spend more than $15 million this year. I agree with that. How $42 million drops to $15 million is absurd though.

The team has $42.4 million in cap space. They said they are not spending the rollover from last year. $44.2m - $6.5m = $35.9m.

Rookie pool is reported at $9.1m, practice squad is ~$1m, and our ridiculous injury pool of $5m. $35.9m - $15.1m = $20.8m

So my guess is the Bengals plan on rolling over another $5m to next year which would put them in the $11-12m in total rollover to next season.

That brings them down to their $15m for free agency. I can make it work with the math. I'm simply saying they could spend the extra $5.8 this year instead of adding it to the rollover. They could also lower their injury money by a couple of million and then they're sitting in the $22-25m range.

(02-28-2017, 01:56 PM)Au165 Wrote: Disagree, most the top TE have injury issues and his production while on the field is on par. The only thing is injuries, but as some analysts have said that is the nature of the position.

(02-28-2017, 02:00 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Ugh.  Damn it's hard remaining a Bengals fan.  And why is Pac-Man,  Maualuga n michael Johnson not cut yet.   We do we hang onto vets 5 years to many.   I swear if oggieboggie starts the season as our left tackle I'm punching Alexander right in his fat face

(02-28-2017, 02:00 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Ugh.  Damn it's hard remaining a Bengals fan.  And why is Pac-Man,  Maualuga n michael Johnson not cut yet.   We do we hang onto vets 5 years to many.   I swear if oggieboggie starts the season as our left tackle I'm punching Alexander right in his fat face

(02-28-2017, 01:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I understand that point. But when it might come down to being able to keep a top-notch RG like Zeitler vs Eifert, I'd prefer a stronger OL over a luxury TE.

(02-28-2017, 02:04 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The sad thing is the offensive line already isn't good WITH Zeitler...and now they'll lose him and be worse.