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ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Belsnickel - 03-02-2017 I feel like there is going to be a lot of discussion about this to come, but who knows. So, much like the Trump thread, bring on the ACA news. Has anyone else found the whole secrecy behind the GOP replacement plan a bit interesting? Rand Paul is currently blasting them about it: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/321990-paul-blasts-house-gop-for-keeping-obamacare-bill-in-secure-location Turn the dial back 7-8 years and we have the familiar sounds of "we have to pass it to see what's in it" filling our ears. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Rotobeast - 03-02-2017 He even brought his own copier....lol Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - BmorePat87 - 03-02-2017 dude tried to Ocean's 11 that bill. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Vas Deferens - 03-02-2017 Halliburton hasn't finished their last few chapters yet. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Belsnickel - 03-03-2017 Not a direct ACA thing, but related to it all and the health care debacle in this country: http://www.governing.com/topics/health-human-services/gov-hospital-federal-patient-safety-readmissions.html?utm_term=Why%20Feds%20Withhold%20Money%20From%20the%20Most%20Vulnerable%20Hospitals&utm_campaign=Why%20Feds%20Withhold%20Money%20From%20the%20Most%20Vulnerable%20Hospitals&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email Quote:No one who works in health care would dispute the need to keep hospital patients safe. But there’s plenty of debate over how best to achieve that and over whether the federal approach is the right one, particularly for hospitals that treat the most vulnerable Americans. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - mallorian69 - 03-03-2017 (03-03-2017, 10:54 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Not a direct ACA thing, but related to it all and the health care debacle in this country: http://www.governing.com/topics/health-human-services/gov-hospital-federal-patient-safety-readmissions.html?utm_term=Why%20Feds%20Withhold%20Money%20From%20the%20Most%20Vulnerable%20Hospitals&utm_campaign=Why%20Feds%20Withhold%20Money%20From%20the%20Most%20Vulnerable%20Hospitals&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=emailThe readmission rates rarely have anything to do with the hospitals. Most insurance providers, including medicare and medicaid, often will only pay x number of days based on the admission diagnosis. This forces hospitals to either eat the cost of extra days, pass the cost on to patients that cant afford it, or send them home. Then many of those patients get sent to extended care facilities that were the reason they had to be hospitalized in the first place. As for fall rates the government has tied the hands of hospitals by making it near impossible for them to sedate or restrain patients with Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia who are often the ones involved in falls. The government needs to let the patient's Dr decide what's best for their patient. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - BengalHawk62 - 03-04-2017 I don't think these people learn from history. Dems got in trouble for forcing Obamacare down everyones throat. It's a flawed law, but at least it was a step in the right direction and they had some courage to take these steps. Repeal and replace seems wasteful and risky. Why not amend and integrate? One big thing I've not seen from anyone (including Rand) is price transparency. Here's a clue to Washington, without price transparency mandates, nothing will slow the rising cost of healthcare. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Rotobeast - 03-04-2017 (03-04-2017, 11:35 AM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Repeal and replace seems wasteful and risky. Why not amend and integrate? One big thing I've not seen from anyone (including Rand) is price transparency. Here's a clue to Washington, without price transparency mandates, nothing will slow the rising cost of healthcare. Totally agree with this. They want to repeal and replace, so they can keep adding to that near $10 Trillion open checkbook budget. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 03-04-2017 They act like it is complicated or something. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - hollodero - 03-04-2017 (03-04-2017, 02:19 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: They act like it is complicated or something. Who could have possibly known? I just wonder why Republicans have to bother: Donald Trump Wrote:When I say I would end Obamacare, I would also come up with a plan that would be far better, much easier to understand, and cost less! Time to come up with that plan! Your minions struggle. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - BoomerFan - 03-04-2017 They tried to repeal it 52 times when Obama was in office. Now they what, have nothing? Insurance costs are still high and the GOP holds all the cards. Where is this magic fix they've been promising? RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - GMDino - 03-04-2017 (03-04-2017, 02:28 PM)hollodero Wrote: Who could have possibly known? (03-04-2017, 03:04 PM)BoomerFan Wrote: They tried to repeal it 52 times when Obama was in office. Now they what, have nothing? Insurance costs are still high and the GOP holds all the cards. Where is this magic fix they've been promising? ![]() RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Belsnickel - 03-07-2017 Well, the draft bill is out: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/AmericanHealthCareAct_WM.pdf I won't link to all of the punditry about it, you can find that on your own to suit your own ideological bent. What's the good, bad, and ugly to you? RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - bfine32 - 03-07-2017 (03-07-2017, 01:37 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, the draft bill is out: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/AmericanHealthCareAct_WM.pdf I'll read it after it's approved. Ok, I doubt I'll study as that is not my area of concentration in HR; hell. I didn't even know there was a tanning bed tax. I will get feedback from those that do. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Benton - 03-07-2017 (03-07-2017, 01:37 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, the draft bill is out: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/AmericanHealthCareAct_WM.pdf Cursory thought after talking to a lawmaker about it last night (which I haven't read the whole thing), my first thought it: political pageantry continues as the uncomfortable parts get put off until the end of 2020... which is likely to be their last cycle with a majority. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - BmorePat87 - 03-07-2017 freedom caucus ain't happy. RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - BmorePat87 - 03-07-2017 according to the White House, the new bill is better because it's smaller. ![]() RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - jmccracky - 03-07-2017 (03-07-2017, 07:40 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: according to the White House, the new bill is better because it's smaller. Ahhhhh! Now it can fit in Trumps hands! RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Aquapod770 - 03-07-2017 (03-07-2017, 07:40 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: according to the White House, the new bill is better because it's smaller. Maybe people will actually read it this time... Preferably Senators and Representatives, you know the people who were supposed to read the ACA ![]() RE: ACA/Obamacare Repeal/Replace Drama - Rotobeast - 03-08-2017 (03-07-2017, 07:40 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: according to the White House, the new bill is better because it's smaller.Well..... Obama being African-American, of course his is bigger than Trump's. ![]() |