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USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - GMDino - 05-07-2017 Just remember folks we have to start toughening up these snowflake children! They'll eat what we make if they don't like it...we'll change the rules to give them what they want. Not like a lot of them will be able to afford school lunches soon anyway. Quote:http://www.csmonitor.com/EqualEd/2017/0502/USDA-secretary-announces-halt-on-school-nutrition-standards?cmpid=TW Gotta save a buck anywhere we can...right?
RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 05-07-2017 Government regulations for clean air, clean water, and healthy food standards are killing industry. If we don't roll back the government over reach while we have the chance pretty soon we won't have any fat kids to work the coal mines. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - 6andcounting - 05-07-2017 Forcing kids to eat a shit meal that is supposed to, in some ways, be healthy only teaches kids that eating healthy is disgusting and doesn't satisfy hunger. The Michelle lunch program was a well-intended, feel good pet project that accomplished nothing and mostly just taught kids misconceptions about healthy choices and made them skip a meal. Students are no worse or better off after this change. The key to criticizing Trump over this is that he isn't doing anything to make it better, not that he made anything worse. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Nately120 - 05-07-2017 The sooner we get kids eating junk the sooner we can look down on them for making all those poor life choices that led them to have the pre-existing conditions their insurance won't cover. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Benton - 05-07-2017 (05-07-2017, 03:01 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Forcing kids to eat a shit meal that is supposed to, in some ways, be healthy only teaches kids that eating healthy is disgusting and doesn't satisfy hunger. The Michelle lunch program was a well-intended, feel good pet project that accomplished nothing and mostly just taught kids misconceptions about healthy choices and made them skip a meal. Students are no worse or better off after this change. The key to criticizing Trump over this is that he is doing anything to make it better, not that he made anything worse. Just curious, have been in a kids cafeteria in the last decade? Maybe you just have bad school cooks. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - 6andcounting - 05-07-2017 (05-07-2017, 04:10 PM)Benton Wrote: Just curious, have been in a kids cafeteria in the last decade? The first half of the last decade. And you don't need to be sitting in a high school cafeteria to say that a meal that's 60% carbs and 15% protein in terms of total calories isn't actually contributing to anyone's healthy lifestyle. There's more to nutrition than eating low fat and low sodium. Those two things are actually essential fuel for your body; simply limiting those things from your diet without understanding what your current intake is and how much you are using any giving day is counterproductive. Standing at about 5'9", I weighed 156 pounds last summer eating 200 grams of fat a day and eating salt by the spoonful. That was 4 years after leaving high school weighing about 240 with no muscle or strength. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Rotobeast - 05-07-2017 (05-07-2017, 04:50 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Standing at about 5'9", I weighed 156 pounds last summer eating 200 grams of fat a day and eating salt by the spoonful. That was 4 years after leaving high school weighing about 240 with no muscle or strength. ![]() RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - bfine32 - 05-07-2017 Did they also outlaw bringing lunch from home? RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Matt_Crimson - 05-07-2017 Kids aren't obese/unhealthy because of what schools decide to put on a school menu. Parents are a major reason why their kids end up fat. Giving kids whatever they want so that they'll shut up has become an increasingly normal behavior when it comes to parenting. This is just as true for food as it is for technology. Yes son, you can have a double quarter pounder with 10pc nuggets and play with your $700 iPad if you'll just shut the hell up. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - GMDino - 05-07-2017 (05-07-2017, 06:26 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Did they also outlaw bringing lunch from home? No, but in many cases that hot lunch at school is the only meal they get. That's another issue. (05-07-2017, 07:11 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Kids aren't obese/unhealthy because of what schools decide to put on a school menu. Parents are a major reason why their kids end up fat. Giving kids whatever they want so that they'll shut up has become an increasingly normal behavior when it comes to parenting. This is just as true for food as it is for technology. Which is why I'm surprised the GOP would back a plan that gives in to what the spoiled little brats want instead of a take it or leave it. ![]() RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Benton - 05-08-2017 (05-07-2017, 04:50 PM)6andcounting Wrote: The first half of the last decade. Different areas, I guess. I was an education reporter back when all the complaining started. I ate in about 12 west Kentucky cafeterias over a few weeks. And in my fmdaughters every Wednesday. The food wasn't all that bad, or all those carbs. Really the only carbs were usually in the sand which brad or some of the fruits. Sure, it was halfway bland because they couldn't use salt, but that didn't stop the kids from adding it on their own. Maybe your school wasn't adhering to federal nutrition guidelines if it was all carbs and salt? RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - 6andcounting - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 09:38 AM)Benton Wrote: Different areas, I guess. I wasn't meaning to sound like I was complaining specifically about my old school lunches. It's more so that it's a disservice when kids associate healthy eating with cheap, bland, low quality food that is a $2 school lunch. If kids only knew the taste of pizza from school cafeteria pizza, most kids wouldn't be all that into pizza. However, most kids love pizza because they associate it with pizza you'd get from an actual pizza shop. The whole idea behind healthy school lunches is that it's probably the only healthy meal kids are getting that day. That's likely true. But now kids think healthy food is trash because they only know healthy eating from what they get in their school lunches. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - fredtoast - 05-08-2017 (05-07-2017, 03:01 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Forcing kids to eat a shit meal that is supposed to, in some ways, be healthy only teaches kids that eating healthy is disgusting Trying to teach children things like math that is supposed to, in some ways, be good for them only teaches kids that learning something hard is disgusting. Just let the kids decide what is best for them. Let them eat junk food and play HALO all day at school. They will be so much happier that way. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - fredtoast - 05-08-2017 (05-07-2017, 04:50 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Standing at about 5'9", I weighed 156 pounds last summer eating 200 grams of fat a day and eating salt by the spoonful. That was 4 years after leaving high school weighing about 240 with no muscle or strength. Let me guess. In high school all you ate was lean protein and green vegetables, right? RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - 6andcounting - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trying to teach children things like math that is supposed to, in some ways, be good for them only teaches kids that learning something hard is disgusting. My post agreed with schools teaching about healthy food and providing meals that fit a healthy lifestyle. My criticism is that all schools do to make a meal "healthy" is make it low fat and low sodium. Neither of those two things should be avoided in a healthy diet and lifestyle. They key is eating the right amounts of both of those two things - along with the right amount of other macro nutrients, micro nutrients and electrolytes. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - 6andcounting - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:17 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Let me guess. In high school all you ate was lean protein and green vegetables, right? That started about a year out of high school. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - bfine32 - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trying to teach children things like math that is supposed to, in some ways, be good for them only teaches kids that learning something hard is disgusting. ...oooorrrrr, IDK, maybe we could have a course called health or something like that where they learn about nutrition and then decide for themselves.......... Nah, let's force them RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - Belsnickel - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: ...oooorrrrr, IDK, maybe we could have a course called health or something like that where they learn about nutrition and then decide for themselves.......... How is it forcing them? Are kids not allowed to bring their own lunches to school, anymore? I mean, the preference kids have for unhealthy foods is often the result of bad food habits learned at home, so if they want to eat junk then let them bring it themselves. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - bfine32 - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: How is it forcing them? Are kids not allowed to bring their own lunches to school, anymore? I mean, the preference kids have for unhealthy foods is often the result of bad food habits learned at home, so if they want to eat junk then let them bring it themselves. Yes they are. I believe I posed that exact question earlier when folks were upset about the guidelines being removed. The point being they are not going to learn about proper nutrition because they have to each whole grain bread at school. RE: USDA secretary announces halt on school nutrition standards - fredtoast - 05-08-2017 (05-08-2017, 02:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The point being they are not going to learn about proper nutrition because they have to each whole grain bread at school. Actually many of them are. Some never get whole grain bread unless they are at school. You know how I learned to like whole grain bread and skim milk? Bt being exposed to them and trying them. Are we really arguing about if our kids should get healthy food at school? |