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Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - StLucieBengal - 07-22-2017 http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/22/poland-passes-reforms-defiance-eu/ Ran on these reforms and followed through as promised. No need for activist judges. Just follow the laws as written. Good stuff from Poland. Quote:Poland’s Senate Passes Reforms in Defiance of EU, Left Wing Protests RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Belsnickel - 07-23-2017 One giant step backwards. This actually dismantles the separation of powers in the country and makes the judiciary the puppets of the ruling party. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:24 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: One giant step backwards. This actually dismantles the separation of powers in the country and makes the judiciary the puppets of the ruling party. Yes but if the judiciary isn't doing exactly what the legislative wants then they are being radical and should be overrun.* If I remember my board history correctly. ![]() *Note: Only of if everything is conservative and anti-immigration. Judges who agree with the legislative branch on things that are not conservative means both of them should be overrun. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:24 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: One giant step backwards. This actually dismantles the separation of powers in the country and makes the judiciary the puppets of the ruling party. Activist judges are the problem. Maybe if the judges just do their job and not try to legislate from the bench there wouldn't be a need for his stuff. We have an activist Judge problem here as well and I wish the senate would start going after them. Judiciary is important but it's become too powerful at times. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:32 AM)GMDino Wrote: Yes but if the judiciary isn't doing exactly what the legislative wants then they are being radical and should be overrun.* (07-23-2017, 11:45 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Activist judges are the problem. Maybe if the judges just do their job and not try to legislate from the bench there wouldn't be a need for his stuff. ![]() RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Dill - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:45 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Activist judges are the problem. Maybe if the judges just do their job and not try to legislate from the bench there wouldn't be a need for his stuff. Activist judges are "problem" for a dictatorial executive. That is why the US Constitution has a system of checks and balances. Why would you cheer the dismantling of democracy on Poland and Hungary? RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:56 AM)Dill Wrote: Activist judges are "problem" for a dictatorial executive. That is why the US Constitution has a system of checks and balances. All they did was give them a mechanism to reign in judges who jump the shark. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Dill - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:58 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: All they did was give them a mechanism to reign in judges who jump the shark. All they did was reduce the power of a branch of government designed to check the other two. Democracy is on its way out unless the remainder of the Polish people can save it. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 12:02 PM)Dill Wrote: All they did was reduce the power of a branch of government designed to check the other two. The Polish people wanted the judges checked. You make it out as if they are arresting judges in the night. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Dill - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 12:06 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The Polish people wanted the judges checked. You make it out as if they are arresting judges in the night. I make it out as if the power of a previously co-equal branch of government is being reduced because the PiS--a "faction" as Madison would call it--wants to control the government. You are ok with the incremental destruction of democracy in Poland and in Hungary. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 12:33 PM)Dill Wrote: I make it out as if the power of a previously co-equal branch of government is being reduced because the PiS--a "faction" as Madison would call it--wants to control the government. If the judges do not try and legislate through the bench then it won't be an issue. Which is exactly what they should be doing anyway.... modern leftists have tried to use the judiciary as a weapon to push their agenda. This is only a check on that to ensure judges think twice before over stepping their responsibilities. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Belsnickel - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:45 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Activist judges are the problem. Maybe if the judges just do their job and not try to legislate from the bench there wouldn't be a need for his stuff. "Activist judges" is a term used by people who disagree with the rulings of the judiciary. I have some news, the judiciary knows the law better than you, better than me, better than the legislature, and better than the executive. When any government that is set up with a separation of powers that includes an independent judiciary makes it not independent, it is a concerning move and a step backwards in democratic principles. It doesn't matter whether it is the right-wing doing it, or the left, moves like this should concern citizens. RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Dill - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 01:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: If the judges do not try and legislate through the bench then it won't be an issue. Which is exactly what they should be doing anyway.... modern leftists have tried to use the judiciary as a weapon to push their agenda. This is only a check on that to ensure judges think twice before over stepping their responsibilities. What would be an example "modern leftists" using the court as a weapon--Brown vs Board of education? RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - Belsnickel - 07-23-2017 ![]() RE: Polish senate passes promised reforms to judiciary - BmorePat87 - 07-23-2017 Thank god we have Checks & Balances and Separation of Power in this country. "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny" |