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Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - GMDino - 11-02-2017 This is a dilly.... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2017/11/02/catholic-nurse-sues-duke-university-hospital-discrimination-after-she-refuses-assist-abortions-and-c/824601001/ Quote:Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital after refusing to assist with abortions, contraception I did not know the Catholic church said some vaccines are bad. That might be the tipping point. As to the lawsuit...I guess she can move and find a catholic hospital to work at. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - Au165 - 11-02-2017 I hate people sometimes. I was okay with the lawsuit (didn't agree but hey sue away) until the PTSD claim. You have PTSD from being fired? Get over yourself. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 The job is the job. If you aren't willing to do it, find a place that suits you better. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 02:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: This is a dilly.... The tipping point for the lawsuit? RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - JustWinBaby - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 02:36 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The job is the job. If you aren't willing to do it, find a place that suits you better. On top of that, it appears she didn't put these objections forward before her employment. Although it seems like they could have accommodated her....but when you accept the job, the employer is relying that you can and will perform all the duties in the job description. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 02:45 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: On top of that, it appears she didn't put these objections forward before her employment. Although it seems like they could have accommodated her....but when you accept the job, the employer is relying that you can and will perform all the duties in the job description. Yeah I'd have a little more sympathy if they introduced new practices after she had been employed. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - GMDino - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 02:37 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The tipping point for the lawsuit? Me and my tenuous ties to the Catholic church. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 02:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: Me and my tenuous ties to the Catholic church. Oh. Quote: The Catholic Church has ruled that some vaccines, notably those used in the prevention of rubella, are morally questionable because they were developed from the tissue of aborted fetuses. When they say developed do they mean when they were first created or they use them to make the vaccine? If it's the latter, then it's a fairly obvious stance. If it's the former, they only call it morally questionable. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - GMDino - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 03:03 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Oh. The story has the link to the Church's statement on it. There are certain lines that are from aborted fetuses. I understand the thought process. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 03:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: The story has the link to the Church's statement on it. There are certain lines that are from aborted fetuses. I understand the thought process. Yeah I noticed that and skimmed it. It seems doctors and nurses are considered very far removed, and even not morally responsible if there are no alternatives except to push for what is considered an ethical alternative so it would seem her only obligation is to write drug companies or whatever in an attempt to have ethical forms of the vaccination created. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 03:20 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Yeah I noticed that and skimmed it. It seems doctors and nurses are considered very far removed, and even not morally responsible if there are no alternatives except to push for what is considered an ethical alternative so it would seem her only obligation is to write drug companies or whatever in an attempt to have ethical forms of the vaccination created. First time I've read a Church opinion piece like this before. But, I think she is screwed legally and spiritually. The Church's opinion regarding vaccinations made from the aborted fetus cell lines is the basis for her objecting to giving all vaccinations. But, the Church isn't against giving all vaccinations. So her stance isn't in keeping with the Church's opinions. Matter of fact, since there aren't any alternatives to three vaccinations in the US, the Church allows for those vaccinations given a greater risk to the public. So she is actually defying the Church. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - michaelsean - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 04:20 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: First time I've read a Church opinion piece like this before. But, I think she is screwed legally and spiritually. The Church's opinion regarding vaccinations made from the aborted fetus cell lines is the basis for her objecting to giving all vaccinations. But, the Church isn't against giving all vaccinations. So her stance isn't in keeping with the Church's opinions. Matter of fact, since there aren't any alternatives to three vaccinations in the US, the Church allows for those vaccinations given a greater risk to the public. So she is actually defying the Church. That's what it looked like to me even with the morally tenuous ones. Her only obligation seems to be to somehow advocate for a more ethical form, which writing a letter would seem to satisfy. RE: Catholic nurse sues Duke University Hospital - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 11-02-2017 (11-02-2017, 04:25 PM)michaelsean Wrote: That's what it looked like to me even with the morally tenuous ones. Her only obligation seems to be to somehow advocate for a more ethical form, which writing a letter would seem to satisfy. I think if she had a true religious objection she would only object to giving specific vaccinations, not all vaccinations. Plus the info she isn't currently working due to, at least in part, PTSD gives me the impression this is just a money grab. |