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FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - CageTheBengal - 11-22-2017 So who likes pay walls and throttling? Quote:The Federal Communications Commission took aim at a signature Obama-era regulation Tuesday, unveiling a plan that would give Internet providers broad powers to determine what websites and online services their customers see and use. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/11/21/the-fcc-has-unveiled-its-plan-to-rollback-its-net-neutrality-rules/?pushid=5a14525ab0a05c1d00000038&tidr=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.bc1288927ad0 RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - jason - 11-22-2017 There should be a lil more concern and/ or outrage about this. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - GMDino - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 10:11 AM)jason Wrote: There should be a lil more concern and/ or outrage about this. A LOT of people are concerned and trying to raise a fuss. But there are two problems: 1) Trump and his minions don't care. (It's about helping the big guy who has been forgotten for so, so long in this country. Just like he said in his inauguration speech. ) 2) Trump's supporters see "Obama regulation" and their tic kicks in. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Benton - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 10:11 AM)jason Wrote: There should be a lil more concern and/ or outrage about this. Most people don’t understand it due to intentionally misleading terms. Net neutrality, throttling, etc. This might be for the best, though. Most people won’t do anything about the epic screwing of the middle class until they are no longer able to watch porn or drink beer. When they come for the pron, it’s gonna be a reckoning. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - CageTheBengal - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 10:27 AM)Benton Wrote: Most people don’t understand it due to intentionally misleading terms. Net neutrality, throttling, etc. I've also seen people who aren't interested in learning about it just take the tried and true stance that all regulation is bad. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Bengalholic - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 10:11 AM)jason Wrote: There should be a lil more concern and/ or outrage about this. People should be very concerned about this. This shouldn't be a partisan issue either. Every liberal, conservative, libertarian and 3rd party voter should be in opposition to eliminating net neutrality and placing an insane amount of power and potential censorship authority with providers, as well as the issue of allowing them to use / profit off of your browsing history. Unfortunately, that's not the case. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - CageTheBengal - 11-22-2017 Here's an example of how paying for your internet could potentially be without regulations. They also could control how fast certain websites work over others instead of the way it is now were your speed is the same regardless of where you want to go on the web. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Millhouse - 11-22-2017 One of my favorite youtubers Philip DeFranco did a good job covering this in his latest vid. As mentioned above, this shouldn't be a partisan issue. Of course I am sure it will be because there are a few that believe this move would be a good thing because it is removing an Obama era regulation. . RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - GMDino - 11-22-2017 This one has been floating around since 2014. http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality
RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - michaelsean - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 12:19 PM)Millhouse Wrote: One of my favorite youtubers Philip DeFranco did a good job covering this in his latest vid. Sorry you lost me in your opening sentence. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Millhouse - 11-22-2017 If the morons in power decide to get rid of net neutrality because 'the free market ISPs will work itself out' over time, the best case scenario is that little to nothing happens until hopefully the next president comes in and works with congress to make it a permanent law. Seeing how there were little to no fast lanes before Net Neutrality came into place, this would be encouraging. However with how shit companies like Comcast and others have become, they would be allowed to throttle their customers websites if they wanted to, like Netflix or Youtube. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Millhouse - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 12:39 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Sorry you lost me in your opening sentence. Some good content on youtube these days. It isnt just monkeys flinging poo like in here. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Benton - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 11:46 AM)Bengalholic Wrote: People should be very concerned about this. Oh, my guess is it will be used by Democrats (since it's pretty well fallen along party lines) to the effect of: "The Republicans in Congress just restricted your porn and forced your Netflix to go up 400%." Republicans will come back with how it saved the internet. And the majority of people still won't understand what side of the fence they fall on, they'll just be really angry about it. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Vas Deferens - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 01:05 PM)Benton Wrote: Oh, my guess is it will be used by Democrats (since it's pretty well fallen along party lines) to the effect of: "The Republicans in Congress just restricted your porn and forced your Netflix to go up 400%." Republicans will come back with how it saved the internet. And the majority of people still won't understand what side of the fence they fall on, they'll just be really angry about it. But the plan has FREEDOM in its name! I LOVE ME SOME FREEDOM. Neutrality sounds like some man in a dress is going to go into the ladies bathroom! SCREW TARGET! The same people who tout capitalism as the end all be all do not want competition. We live in a country of undereducated entitled middle aged buffoons. Its going to be hard to reverse the consequences of certain generations anti intellectualism. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - JustWinBaby - 11-22-2017 The internet worked just fine before any net neutrality rules. There was the occasional anti-competitive play or blocking, which has always been handled by existing regulations. And how can you miss something or have the internet ruined by legislation that barely ever went into effect? RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Vas Deferens - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 01:37 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: The internet worked just fine before any net neutrality rules. There was the occasional anti-competitive play or blocking, which has always been handled by existing regulations. Yes. Because the internet is not evolving. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - CageTheBengal - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 01:37 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: The internet worked just fine before any net neutrality rules. There was the occasional anti-competitive play or blocking, which has always been handled by existing regulations. Not true. ISPs wanted to and have controlled how much bandwidth flows based upon population. A family in rural Ohio weren't getting the same speeds as a family in New York despite having the same service and paying the same rate. ISPs also started practicing monitoring customers and sending them warnings just for using torrents and if they tried using a VPN they would disable their account. Torrents themselves aren't bad and are an easier way to share information to people with low bandwidth due to what kind of internet is available to them. You don't have to wait for it to go into effect to see how it could potentially change the way the internet operates all you have to do is some critical thinking about what the plan is and see the big picture. Have Comcast, Here are some of the rules they want to roll back...
We all like to know what we are paying for right? Before this ISPs didn't have to share with you the fact that they could slow your internet down after you hit a set percentage of data usage or that they might move you the back of the bandwidth flow if you lived in rural areas compared to high traffic areas.
What do you find appealing about letting ISPs make the rules they get to play by? RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - bfine32 - 11-22-2017 I'm torn on this. Part of me says they are private companies they should be able to allow/block any content they see fit and let the private market sort itself. But part of me realizes that many cable companies are geographic monopolies and consumers often have no choice. I have no idea how this could be considered partisan. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Vas Deferens - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 02:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm torn on this. Part of me says they are private companies they should be able to allow/block any content they see fit and let the private market sort itself. Also keep in mind that these private entities have successfully entrenched their monopolies in many states by lobbying for, writing and pushing through legislation that bars municipalities from creating their own, community owned and operated telecom networks. The individual has no choice as it stands right now. Additionally, should these rules be pulled back, what would keep the providers from blocking all content related to putting net neutrality back in place? It is not a partisan issue in that it will negatively impact citizens on both sides of the issue. The blame for kowtowing to private interests on the other hand can be placed squarely on the shoulders of your daddy. The FCC is a part of the executive branch. RE: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to decide how you use your internet - Benton - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 02:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm torn on this. Part of me says they are private companies they should be able to allow/block any content they see fit and let the private market sort itself. http://time.com/3741085/net-neutrality-republicans-president/ Older article, but pretty much the consensus thought I've heard put out there. Obama and Democrats are for it, so knee jerk reaction is for Republicans to be against. Like GOP-care... it was great when it was "their" idea in the 90s, but the end-all evil when Obama dusted it off. It doesn't appear to be just the money as bribes by telecomm is pretty well split between the two parties, or ideology as this will pretty well hit small 'Main Street' businesses in the nuts. Anecdotal, but mine (newspapers) are expecting significant restrictions for our online users. And since 90% of what so many businesses do is internet based (ours included), this is probably going to see rate hikes or production reductions in the future. |