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South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-07-2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html I guess they didn’t look up what happened to Zimbabwe when they did this crazy stuff. It’s amazing in this day and age that this stuff happens. Quote:We are not calling for the slaughter of white people - at least for now': South African parliament votes to SEIZE white-owned land as experts warn of violent repercussions RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - GMDino - 03-07-2018 (03-07-2018, 10:05 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html So the white people can move. No big deal. ![]() RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - Benton - 03-07-2018 South African immigration law was pretty clear. Good thing theyre FINALLY sending these law breakers home. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - bfine32 - 03-07-2018 If it's what the elected officials decided who am I to disagree. Kudos to SA for at least getting its parliament to do their job. So i join the consensus in this thread suggesting this is a good thing and those minorities that are disadvantaged by the majority should just kick rocks. But with all things I will say: Be careful what you ask for RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - Benton - 03-07-2018 (03-07-2018, 11:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If it's what the elected officials decided who am I to disagree. Kudos to SA for at least getting its parliament to do their job. So i join the consensus in this thread suggesting this is a good thing and those minorities that are disadvantaged by the majority should just kick rocks. ![]() RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-07-2018 Interview on this topic. FF to the 14:30 mark or so. She actually has a lot of videos on your YouTube channel covering the issues over there RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - BmorePat87 - 03-08-2018 This is horribly racist and likely to damage the nation and progress they've made since Apartheid. I'm sure there's also a better person to quote than a white supremacist. Their views are really no different than these politicians. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - Belsnickel - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 12:37 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: This is horribly racist and likely to damage the nation and progress they've made since Apartheid. Agreed. This issue is a very complex one and I am having a hard time with my view of it. The people that are leading some of these movements are not people that you want to be hitching any movement to. In addition to that, there is anti-white violence in the country that has been ignored by the government for the most part. On the other side of this issue is that something like 75% of agricultural land in the country is owned by white people, which make up around 8% of the population. The land was acquired through European colonization which is theft when you boil it all down. With the current population still having a significant number of people that were alive during apartheid, those wounds are still very raw. I disagree with any violence, that is a given. I would like to know more about the constitutional framework for the country before really digging into the issue of reparative takings for redistribution. It's easy to apply our norms to the situation, but our country ties liberty to property in a perverse way. I don't know if they do the same and that can create a totally different situation. Edit: Upon a cursory reading of the constitution, specifically the bill of rights, I don't see how something like this could pass muster. Their courts should shoot this down if they are going to retain the rule of law in the country. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - fredtoast - 03-08-2018 (03-07-2018, 10:05 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html I don't think this is right at all, but I don't see how Lucie can complain about it when he said it was fine for the white people here to take all the property from the Native Americans. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - masterpanthera_t - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 09:52 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Agreed. This issue is a very complex one and I am having a hard time with my view of it. The people that are leading some of these movements are not people that you want to be hitching any movement to. In addition to that, there is anti-white violence in the country that has been ignored by the government for the most part. I think this is very similar to my views on the subject. It's always complicated to figure out how to balance historical wrongs to provide opportunities to those who have been wronged, but this blanket policy of just kicking out people who have established themselves in an industry within the country (whether it was originally fair or not) doesn't seem equitable either. The only way imo to handle these tasks is by consensus among the whole country and by making persuasive arguments to the populace(the whole, not one segment, regardless of the numbers of that segment) along "moral" lines to help come to a solution that is agreeable for everyone. But then again, I don't see a group (majority or minority), of people in advantageous positions just voluntarily saying "you're right, I'm just going to hand over my advantage", or "I'm going to be willing to discuss how I can reduce my advantage to make it better for everyone else but me." Chalk this up as a pessimistic and cynical view based on historically how people have been in these situations. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - PhilHos - 03-08-2018 Simple solution: the white famers and whatnot should just identify as black or any other non-white race. Problem solved. ![]() RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 09:55 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't think this is right at all, but I don't see how Lucie can complain about it when he said it was fine for the white people here to take all the property from the Native Americans. Come on man. This is a ridiculous comparison on so many levels. Not even close RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - Belsnickel - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Come on man. This is a ridiculous comparison on so many levels. Not even close You're right. How the white people got the land in the first place is more like what was done by European settlers to those indigenous to the Americas. They just weren't as efficient at eradicating the indigenous population so now they are taking it back. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 09:52 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Agreed. This issue is a very complex one and I am having a hard time with my view of it. The people that are leading some of these movements are not people that you want to be hitching any movement to. In addition to that, there is anti-white violence in the country that has been ignored by the government for the most part. British Colonization was a great thing around the world. The fact that you dismiss it is pretty crazy. The developed world should be thanking them. Now if you want to complain about colonization the.ln certainly the Spanish colonization has left something to be desired. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You're right. How the white people got the land in the first place is more like what was done by European settlers to those indigenous to the Americas. They just weren't as efficient at eradicating the indigenous population so now they are taking it back. They were able to actually do something with the land. It’s called progress. Even now we see what happens when these populations are left to their own desires. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - Belsnickel - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: British Colonization was a great thing around the world. The fact that you dismiss it is pretty crazy. The developed world should be thanking them. Now if you want to complain about colonization the.ln certainly the Spanish colonization has left something to be desired. I don't dismiss it. I just call it what it was: theft. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - GMDino - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:49 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They were able to actually do something with the land. It’s called progress. Even now we see what happens when these populations are left to their own desires. ![]() ![]() RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:50 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't dismiss it. I just call it what it was: theft. I think you meant progress. Thanks to British colonization the world is as advanced as it is today. RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - GMDino - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 02:01 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I think you meant progress. Thanks to British colonization the world is as advanced as it is today. Well, if we completely dismiss advancements by any non-white culture. ![]() RE: South Africa parliament votes to seize white owned land - StLucieBengal - 03-08-2018 (03-08-2018, 01:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: Every time I use direct language you start crying and making 500 posts about how insensitive I am . |