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Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - GMDino - 05-10-2018 It is a long read, but you can listen to it also at the link. https://www.npr.org/2018/05/09/609697381/reporter-on-new-email-dump-that-reveals-secret-inner-workings-of-the-epa Quote:New York Times reporter Eric Lipton says the response to a recent FOIA request shows that Scott Pruitt and his staff have gone to great lengths to keep the public and the news media at a distance. Pruitt is a complete cuckoo. And while that is a perfect fit for the Trump administration it's terrifying to see. From his extreme secrecy to his paranoia. It is sad. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - Millhouse - 05-10-2018 He is the worst hire for a cabinet position in recent memory. And that is saying something considering who runs the education dpt. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Slowly declawing the EPA. Pruitt will get a lot more Done between now and 2024. It’s exciting. Leftists are just upset because worship at the feet of the EPA. It’s one of their Gods. Love Pruitt. One of the best appointments. It’s Hilarious the media is upset. They are just puppets of the environmental groups anyway. Shrinking the EPA and lessening it’s grip is not some scandel. He is doing a great job. I find it funny that the reporter thinks his job is to regulate. Why can’t his job to be to lessen over. regulation. It’s not like he is just wiping out every single regulation. Pruitt should be wary of security with the amount of former obama people. Leaking throughout the government. Plus the EPA is likely filled with environmental zealots. He is truly operating in the snakes den. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - fredtoast - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 01:00 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Slowly declawing the EPA. Leftists are upset because they are educated enough to see what happens with no EPA. They know about the air in Chine today, and the Cuyahoga River catching fire in the US before we had the EPA. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - Belsnickel - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 01:00 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Slowly declawing the EPA. First, Pruitt is a corrupt individual. Second, his job isn't to declaw the EPA, his job is defined by the mission of the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/our-mission-and-what-we-do The laws they are supposed to create regulations to enforce are, in part, listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency#Related_legislation If he isn't doing his part to make sure these laws are being enforced with regulations, then he is failing in his job at the EPA Administrator. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - GMDino - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 01:00 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Slowly declawing the EPA. (05-10-2018, 01:11 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: First, Pruitt is a corrupt individual. Second, his job isn't to declaw the EPA, his job is defined by the mission of the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/our-mission-and-what-we-do And he's not even undoing reglutations...he's just saying he will. There's a long process to do it. https://www.npr.org/2018/05/10/609979515/how-much-scott-pruitt-has-changed-the-epa-is-an-open-question Even when they have presented evidence for getting rid of a regulation it reads like a pamphlet compared to the science and backing FOR the regulation when it was created. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - NATI BENGALS - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 01:00 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: He is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Slowly declawing the EPA. You done lost your mind. He is the head of the EPA. The inviroment does not have a voice of its own. He is supposed to protect it. Instead he is working for lobbyists. That is broke as shit and to say otherwise means you have no idea what you are talking about. And to think you need a 24/7 security team because of hippees proves he is as big of a coward as he is crooked RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 01:11 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: First, Pruitt is a corrupt individual. Second, his job isn't to declaw the EPA, his job is defined by the mission of the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/our-mission-and-what-we-do Trump was elected with the mandate to cut regulations. The EPA being a major target. He said he was going to go after them and he is doing so, he appointed the right guy to get this job done. The reality is that the obama epa did so much to hurt this country that we need someone in here who will take it down from the inside. It’s really a shame every environmental zealot in there can’t be fired at once. The department needs a serious course correction. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 02:27 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: You done lost your mind. He is the head of the EPA. The inviroment does not have a voice of its own. He is supposed to protect it. Instead he is working for lobbyists. That is broke as shit and to say otherwise means you have no idea what you are talking about. Environmental terrorists are an issue. The EPA is their God. You can safeguard the environment without crippling regulations. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - Belsnickel - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 02:34 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Trump was elected with the mandate to cut regulations. The EPA being a major target. He said he was going to go after them and he is doing so, he appointed the right guy to get this job done. Trump wasn't elected with a mandate. A mandate implies at least a plurality, but usually a majority, of popular support. This is something Trump has never had. The rest of your point is just opinionated bloviating that doesn't need to be addressed. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 03:03 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Trump wasn't elected with a mandate. A mandate implies at least a plurality, but usually a majority, of popular support. This is something Trump has never had. The rest of your point is just opinionated bloviating that doesn't need to be addressed. Trump won the election to do exactly what he said he would..... and he has been doing that again and again. His mandate is from his voters, and they expect him to do what he said. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - GMDino - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 04:34 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Trump won the election to do exactly what he said he would..... and he has been doing that again and again. ![]() RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - hollodero - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 04:34 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Trump won the election to do exactly what he said he would..... and he has been doing that again and again. Yeah he drained the swamp and found some bog bodies to run the show. Wow how he drained that thing. Remarkable. Note: Trump supporters don't even care about blatantly corrupt admin members he picks. Jeez, you guys do take that "love him for his flaws"-thing to some lengths. I mean, I do get that screw the environment aspect. The environment kills thousands of US citizens every year, and that's clearly an act of war. But that you're also fine with Pruitt's corruption, that's something else. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 04:47 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah he drained the swamp and found some bog bodies to run the show. Wow how he drained that thing. Remarkable. I’m not ok with corruption. A lot of his supposed corruption is over blown. If there is legitimate corruption and it’s knowingly done then yes we should do something. The issue is that because it’s the epa it just looks like the leftists are overblowing the whole thing. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - Millhouse - 05-10-2018 The d-bag has like at least 10 investigations into him right now isn't it? Even if you are in favor tearing down the epa, the guy is ripping the taxpayers off with some of the stuff he has pulled. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - hollodero - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 04:54 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I’m not ok with corruption. A lot of his supposed corruption is over blown. If there is legitimate corruption and it’s knowingly done then yes we should do something. Ah no, the issue is rather because it's leftists complaining, you'd better circle your wagons without even bothering about the merit of the accusations. Quote:But since he came to Washington, Pruitt has managed to accumulate an extraordinarily lengthy series of questionable episodes and outright scandals. Let’s run them down: Source Yeah, he allegedly also gave his staff a list of countries he wished to travel to and asked them to find a reason for him to go there. Swamp=drained. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - masterpanthera_t - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 05:22 PM)hollodero Wrote: Ah no, the issue is rather because it's leftists complaining, you'd better circle your wagons without even bothering about the merit of the accusations. I will add that Pruitt chose not to prosecute major cases of pollution in Oklahoma, his home state, to the point that one local river (I'm not sure if there's more), was so contaminated from chicken poop (I kid you not), from nearby chicken industries, that even today it looks green. I don't have the citation for this, but I'm stating what I heard on a radio program. I'm sure Dino or maybe even Matt might follow up with links here. By no means am I implying that they are my lackeys or that I would think of them that way ![]() Edit The claim from Pruitt was that the incidents occurred before he became state Attorney general ( I hope I remember the title correctly), as if this was a valid or reasonable excuse for making the river unusable. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - GMDino - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 05:38 PM)masterpanthera_t Wrote: I will add that Pruitt chose not to prosecute major cases of pollution in Oklahoma, his home state, to the point that one local river (I'm not sure if there's more), was so contaminated from chicken poop (I kid you not), from nearby chicken industries, that even today it looks green. I don't have the citation for this, but I'm stating what I heard on a radio program. I'm sure Dino or maybe even Matt might follow up with links here. By no means am I implying that they are my lackeys or that I would think of them that way https://stateimpact.npr.org/oklahoma/2018/05/03/in-oklahoma-critics-say-pruitt-stalled-pollution-case-after-taking-industry-funds/ ![]() RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - StLucieBengal - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 05:22 PM)hollodero Wrote: Ah no, the issue is rather because it's leftists complaining, you'd better circle your wagons without even bothering about the merit of the accusations. First let me Thank you for the list. I appreciate you making easy to respond directly to each. As for the circling the wagons Comment. I just want these to be checked out before we rush to judgement calling these corruption. 1. The ethics people checked out his lease and everything was in order. It was a room rental. So nothing here. 2. Being paranoid in a place where you are surrounded by people who oppose your purpose is normal. The EPA is like a den of snakes to him and anyone else who wants to eat away at the EPA. So nothing here. 3. See #2. Admittedly this is over the top. I would rather see just firing the people who he doesn’t trust. 4. He doesn’t need first class travel on a regular basis. This should be checked out. But it’s minor. 5. See #4 6. So the process worked as intended. So nothing here. 7. We do not know the threats he receives. Eco terrorists are only rivaled by Muslims. Hard to nail a guy for security. If there is no threats then he doesn’t need it. 8. I believe he didn’t know about this and corrected the issue. 9. I don’t know the ethics rules but house hunting doesn’t seem like a big deal. But if it is then so be it. Either way it’s minor. 10. Seems this falls under #7 11. Who fired them and for what exact reason? Need more information. 12. He had plenty experience leading a large group. That’s why he was hired. His banking issues aren’t relevant. But I will say it was a questionable hire. Why even invite the drama. 13. Depends on how much work he does in Tulsa. Does his family still live there? Need more information. RE: Reporter On New Email Dump That Reveals Secret Inner Workings Of The EPA - hollodero - 05-10-2018 (05-10-2018, 06:02 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Need more information. I gave a link to the article, in said article these points provide a link for more detail. Overall, I'd be willing to accept a possible honest explanation for one or two points, maybe. This list is just overwhelmingly long. And it really just deals with his conduct as head of the EPA. There's plenty of questionable stuff before that. It's a bit of a Suh situation, you can get the benefit of the doubt only that many times. Step on your fourth QB and people reasonably stop believing in your innocence. That being said, my point is made and I don't intend to get deeper involved in some of your ridiculously questionable gov appointments. It's not him fascinating me. Lastly, eco terrorists? How many casualties do they cause with their terror attacks. Pruitt underlined his need for super protection - hopefully at least among other things - by providing a picture of his where someone drew a mustache on him. Scary, scary stuff. |