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Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - GMDino - 05-16-2018 What a wonderful, Christian man. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/16/trump-immigrants-animals-mexico-democrats-sanctuary-cities/617252002/ Quote:President Trump used extraordinarily harsh rhetoric to renew his call for stronger immigration laws Wednesday, calling undocumented immigrants "animals" and venting frustration at Mexican officials who he said "do nothing" to help the United States. He's a sick sad man (that a couple of the "usual suspects" will defend now) but his choice of words makes me believe that it must part of a dialywhiner/breitbart indoctrination piece too. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - Dill - 05-16-2018 (05-16-2018, 10:39 PM)GMDino Wrote: What a wonderful, Christian man. Why are you blaming Trump??? "I know what you're going through with families is very tough," [Trump] told Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. "But those are the bad laws the Democrats gave us. We have to break up families. The Democrats gave us that law. It's a horrible thing we have to break up families." RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-16-2018 (05-16-2018, 10:50 PM)Dill Wrote: Why are you blaming Trump??? He is right. We desperately need to modernize our immigration policy with some common sense limits. Also we need to move to a less racial policy. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - Belsnickel - 05-17-2018 Okay, were he referring to all of the border crossers as animals, then there would be reason for outrage. But the context of this statement is in reply to commentary and questions about MS-13 specifically. I am not saying the statements aren't problematic. Otherizing people in this way is never a good thing, especially when you have such a high profile. But the media seems to be making this into a case of him saying this about all undocumented immigrants and not just about these specific gang members. There is a difference. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - fredtoast - 05-17-2018 So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - Griever - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? -crickets- RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - michaelsean - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? Sure as long as it's across the board for all states. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - GMDino - 05-17-2018 (05-16-2018, 11:19 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: He is right. We desperately need to modernize our immigration policy with some common sense limits. Also we need to move to a less racial policy. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - michaelsean - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 09:09 AM)Griever Wrote: -crickets- You did "crickets" after 10 minutes? RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - Nately120 - 05-17-2018 So Trump hired "animals" rather than law-abiding taxpaying US citizens in order to make more money. Outstanding. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - bfine32 - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? As long as it is not in violation of federal law then of course. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:55 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Okay, were he referring to all of the border crossers as animals, then there would be reason for outrage. But the context of this statement is in reply to commentary and questions about MS-13 specifically. I am not saying the statements aren't problematic. Otherizing people in this way is never a good thing, especially when you have such a high profile. But the media seems to be making this into a case of him saying this about all undocumented immigrants and not just about these specific gang members. There is a difference. I’m shocked. Can’t believe the media would ever do anything like this.... RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? Immigration policy is a federal matter. Obama sued when Arizona tried to secure their border. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 09:13 AM)GMDino Wrote: Once again you have no idea how immigration works. Not all races have the same chance to get in this country. The trump point system actually is non racial as it looks at everything else only. But please don’t let the facts get in the way of your chicanery. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:55 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Okay, were he referring to all of the border crossers as animals, then there would be reason for outrage. But the context of this statement is in reply to commentary and questions about MS-13 specifically. I am not saying the statements aren't problematic. Otherizing people in this way is never a good thing, especially when you have such a high profile. But the media seems to be making this into a case of him saying this about all undocumented immigrants and not just about these specific gang members. There is a difference. I finally listened to it and this is exactly correct. He was directly referring to MS13 members when he made the "animals" comment. As someone who has dealt with this gang extensively I can tell you that his term is more generous then I would typically use. MS13 likes to dispatch their victims with edged weapons, typically machetes. We recently had a case where two MS13 members raped and then chopped two girls up with machetes in Griffith Park. Mind you, in the southern California area MS is subservient to the Mexican Mafia so we don't even get them at their most extreme. (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? Bfine rather nails this question below. (05-17-2018, 10:44 AM)bfine32 Wrote: As long as it is not in violation of federal law then of course. Exactly. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - GMDino - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 08:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So is the "states rights" crowd going to support California on this sanctuary city issue? Of course not! This isn't abortion! RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - GMDino - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 10:50 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I finally listened to it and this is exactly correct. He was directly referring to MS13 members when he made the "animals" comment. As someone who has dealt with this gang extensively I can tell you that his term is more generous then I would typically use. MS13 likes to dispatch their victims with edged weapons, typically machetes. We recently had a case where two MS13 members raped and then chopped two girls up with machetes in Griffith Park. Mind you, in the southern California area MS is subservient to the Mexican Mafia so we don't even get them at their most extreme. That is awful, animal like behavior. I couldn't find a link tot he story about it though. I'm not doubting you (sincerely) I just wanted to read about it as that didn't make our news out here. In fact MS13 never makes the news in our area unless Trump is talking about them. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 10:55 AM)GMDino Wrote: That is awful, animal like behavior. There are some great documentaries on ms-13. They are this violent because of the way El Salvador has been dealing with civil wars over and over. Which is why I used the term savages/animals in the past. There was also a tv show a while back that did gangs as well. Ms 13 was on there a lot. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - GMDino - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 10:59 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: There are some great documentaries on ms-13. Is this case in there? As it was recent I wanted to see how it plays out. RE: Trump on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' - StLucieBengal - 05-17-2018 (05-17-2018, 11:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: Is this case in there? As it was recent I wanted to see how it plays out. I added to the above post. Probably while you were responding. Not on SSF’s specific case but this isn’t anything knew with ms-13. It’s very interesting and you would probably enjoy some background. Which has affected how I view El Salvador. A lot of similar violence, they drag bodies up and down the streets to mark territory with their blood. After they chop off limbs. |