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Trump admin to end separation policy - Bengalzona - 06-20-2018 https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/621798823/speaker-ryan-plans-immigration-votes-amid-doubts-that-bills-can-pass?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180620 Quote:Trump Says He Will Sign Order To End Family Separations RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 Imagine the outrage when he locks up the entire family. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - Bengalzona - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 02:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Imagine the outrage when he locks up the entire family. Probably less of a reaction than when he decides to put them on bread and water. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - PhilHos - 06-20-2018 Kudos to Trump for finally doing the right thing. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - jj22 - 06-20-2018 Good move by Trump. But all this time he lied to everyone saying there was nothing he could do....... RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 02:57 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Kudos to Trump for finally doing the right thing. Given we do not know what he is going to do. "Not separate the family" gives him quite a bit of latitude. I can see big, wonderful family detention centers in the future. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - Arturo Bandini - 06-20-2018 Thanks Melania. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - PhilHos - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 03:30 PM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: Thanks Melania. Out of curiosity, do you have something against Melania? RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 03:31 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Out of curiosity, do you have something against Melania? I'd like to have something against Melania. She would look much happier. But more to the point lots of folks display animosity against FLOTUS simply because of who she is married to. For instance she tweeted that a subject she and the Queen of Spain was welfare of children. The Twittersphere blew up with hate filled remarks. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - Griever - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 02:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Imagine the outrage when he locks up the entire family. yeah locking up families for what comes out to a misdemeanor that is usually handled by a fine the caging of children **** up was and will be on trumps head as it was his AG that enacted the policy of doing it RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - fredtoast - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 02:57 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Kudos to Trump for finally doing the right thing. What did he do? RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 04:22 PM)Griever Wrote: yeah locking up families for what comes out to a misdemeanor that is usually handled by a fine What the left wants you to believe: RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 03:33 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But more to the point lots of folks display animosity against FLOTUS simply because of who she is married to. For instance she tweeted that a subject she and the Queen of Spain was welfare of children. The Twittersphere blew up with hate filled remarks. More rancor from the left: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/peter-fonda-suggests-separating-donald-trump-son-barron-163200493.html Quote:Actor Peter Fonda targeted President Donald Trump’s 12-year-old son Barron in a late-night Twitter rant about the separation of immigrant families at the U.S. border. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - jj22 - 06-20-2018 I can't believe folks are upset about the policy change. Child concentration camps should never be acceptable. And if you are upset that someone said Barron should be in one, then you should be upset that there are actually kids that are in them. What's worse, someone saying a kid should be in one, or someone actually putting kids in one? I guess there are those that believe it's worse to say a kid should be in one...... RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - Bengalzona - 06-20-2018 Per the original law, separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings. All of this has been intact since the regulations were put in place. But children were generally not separated from parents before. What has changed with this administration is the last part: criminal proceedings. Before, parents with children were not automatically put into criminal proceedings. This administration has elected to do that, in addition to denying asylum requests for a wide variety of reasons. If the administration were sincere in their belief that all people who cross the border illegally are criminals, that would be one thing. But as evidenced by the President's tweets earlier, that was not the case. This was about the admin implementing this policy only until they get funding for a border wall (apparently they have given up on Mexico paying for such a wall and have returned to trying to force this upon the American taxpayer). The potential for this to happen was always there. But previous admins chose a more open interpretation to allow tolerance for those seeking asylum from horrific conditions and to avoid separating parents and children unnecessarily. This administration and it's base feel (no pun intended) that it is necessary to separate parents and children in order to 'persuade' Democrats to vote a certain way? I think there is a word for that. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 06:31 PM)jj22 Wrote: I can't believe folks are upset about the policy change. Child concentration camps should never be acceptable. And if you are upset that someone said Barron should be in one, then you should be upset that there are actually kids that are in them. What's worse, someone saying a kid should be in one, or someone actually putting kids in one? If you ignore the part about Baron's parents did not enter this country illegally and the fact the tweet suggested he should be placed in a cage with pedophiles then you have a point. Outside of that then your just excuses a hateful, yet liberal, tweet. Also, I have seen no one here or otherwise upset about the proposed policy change. It appears they are going to detain the entire family. Personally I think it's a great solution. Now the left may still be upset because we don't just release the to fail to show up for their court date. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - NATI BENGALS - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 05:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: More rancor from the left: Good good embrace the darkside. Focus your outrage on something that does not matter even the tiniest amount like some actor whose tweets dont mean a shitting thing. And play your role as a pawn to defend a president who has been lying to your country. Sad RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - jj22 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 06:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you ignore the part about Baron's parents did not enter this country illegally and the fact the tweet suggested he should be placed in a cage with pedophiles then you have a point. Outside of that then your just excuses a hateful, yet liberal, tweet. I think your outrage over someone saying a kid should be in a concentration camp vs your "outrage" over kids actually being in them speaks for itself. But carry on excusing those who actually put kid in concentration camps while flaming outrage over a tweet from some random person saying a kid should be in one. RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - bfine32 - 06-20-2018 (06-20-2018, 06:49 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Per the original law, separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings. All of this has been intact since the regulations were put in place. But children were generally not separated from parents before.So you're good with a system that releases someone that crosses the border illegally and fails to show up for their court date about 80+% of the time; because that's what past administrations were doing? RE: Trump admin to end separation policy - jj22 - 06-20-2018 In this administrations eyes, these kids and their family's were better off claiming to be Nazi's and Klansman. Then at least they'd be considered "Very fine people", and not roaches. |