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Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - GMDino - 01-04-2019 I didn't go look up the full proposal but this is something I think most of us can agree on. https://www.wtae.com/article/lawmakers-introduce-constitutional-amendment-to-impose-term-limits-on-congress/25746101?fbclid=IwAR1vAnwAfGljsDtegvBIaKckprC0lLcsf17OKCmjaFCJZMVzThEkBxjc_WY Quote:Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and Republican Rep. Francis Rooney proposed a constitutional amendment on Thursday that would impose term limits on members of both houses of Congress. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Nebuchadnezzar - 01-04-2019 I can get behind this but why do House members only get six years to try and make a difference? Why not limit it to six terms? I know six terms seems like a lot but it's only 12 years. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Yojimbo - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:00 PM)GMDino Wrote: I didn't go look up the full proposal but this is something I think most of us can agree on. That’s great, why aren’t any Democrats co-sponsoring? RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - GMDino - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:07 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I can get behind this but why do House members only get six years to try and make a difference? Why not limit it to six terms? Good catch. I'd be good with making it 12 years for both. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - GMDino - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: That’s great, why aren’t any Democrats co-sponsoring? The cynic in me says NEITHER side really wants limits but the GOP is only doing it at a time when they are concerned about losing elections/power so the Democrats won't back it because they are optimistic about winning elections/power. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Au165 - 01-04-2019 I'm okay with the idea, but not sure I agree with this structure. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Yojimbo - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:35 PM)GMDino Wrote: The cynic in me says EITHER side really wants limits but the GOP is only doing it at a time when they are concerned about losing elections/power so the Democrats won't back it because they are optimistic about winning elections/power. That makes sense. I was wondering if it had some kind of poison pill section to it. (01-04-2019, 03:37 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'm okay with the idea, but not sure I agree with this structure. Same. I think the structure should have one branch of Congress have longer terms than The President and the other shorter. Also, while we are talking term limits via Constitutional amendments, how about we throw the SCOTUS in there too, 10 years, 20 years? RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Benton - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: That’s great, why aren’t any Democrats co-sponsoring? A number of Democrat hopefuls ran on the platform (and some republicans,too) but I'd say this is mostly 'sorry we screwed over the majority of our base after giving ourselves tax cuts, rapidly expanding government spending and wrecking the economy when you gave us the all three branches of government like we asked for.' the midterms weren't some big blue wave, but they were a wake-up call that republicans can't keep running on a platform of limiting federal reach and economic improvements for middle income earners and then doing the exact opposite. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - bfine32 - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 03:07 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I can get behind this but why do House members only get six years to try and make a difference? Why not limit it to six terms? I'd assume it has something to do with the amount per state. For instance California has 2 Senators and 53 Congressmen. As to term limits for elected officials; not a fan. Now members of SCOUTUS that's a different story. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Belsnickel - 01-04-2019 I don't like this. I'm not in favor of congressional term limits for many reasons, but here are 5 good ones: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/01/18/five-reasons-to-oppose-congressional-term-limits/ Also, from the same author (and yes, this is a conservative publication and this is a list from a conservative) focusing on staffers: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/term-limits-for-congressional-staff-10-reasons-its-an-awful-idea Quote:Here are 10 reasons why the implementation of term limits for congressional staff is a bad idea: RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Benton - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 05:11 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't like this. I'm not in favor of congressional term limits for many reasons, but here are 5 good ones: I haven't read the proposed legislation, but does this actually limit staff retention? Or is that just the (admittedly likely) fear? RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Belsnickel - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 05:17 PM)Benton Wrote: I haven't read the proposed legislation, but does this actually limit staff retention? Or is that just the (admittedly likely) fear? No, the amendment only address elected members of Congress. Some of the concerns with staff members, though, would be shared with elected members. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Benton - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 05:30 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: No, the amendment only address elected members of Congress. Some of the concerns with staff members, though, would be shared with elected members. Well then it may not be much of an issue. Staff provide much (most?) Of the data that goes into decisions. May not be anything changes. Or maybe we start getting better staffers and better legislation. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Belsnickel - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 05:43 PM)Benton Wrote: Well then it may not be much of an issue. Staff provide much (most?) Of the data that goes into decisions. May not be anything changes. Or maybe we start getting better staffers and better legislation. Actually, the influence of staff on the policy decisions has been decreasing over time. Since about the '70s, we have seen members of Congress push higher and higher proportions of their staff to their local offices, leaving a vacuum of information in Washington. This vacuum has become filled with lobbyists as they write legislation for the elected members and provide them with information to sway them. By limiting the terms of Representatives and Senators, then there is going to be even more reliance on these outside sources of influence as the members will lack the expertise as well. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - BmorePat87 - 01-04-2019 Copied from a post I made against term limits in 2016 Quote:I am against limits, and here is why. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Mike M (the other one) - 01-04-2019 I am for term limits, and I understand why people are against it. We have to figure out what's best and roll with it. We know that the current mess isn't working, and honestly, I think more would get done if people weren't so worried about re-elections all the time. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Belsnickel - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 06:22 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I am for term limits, and I understand why people are against it. This is why I am personally for publicly funded congressional elections. So much of the time of a member of Congress is spent fundraising and trying to please donors, that this move, alone, could result in a more effective legislature. I have a lot of reforms I would put in place for our legislative system, but term limits is not one I support. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - kdgjr - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 06:08 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Copied from a post I made against term limits in 2016 100% agree about Gerrymandering. I believe it is the #1 problem. The lines have been drawn up so that incumbency is practically inevitable. Draw the maps up independently and term limits maybe don't become as necessary. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Millhouse - 01-04-2019 I'm opposed to term limits for Congress because I am against any law that fundamentally at it's core is about not trusting the American people to vote who they want in office. Fix and improve the laws that make the process a fair and open field instead. RE: Lawmakers introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress - Benton - 01-04-2019 (01-04-2019, 05:59 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Actually, the influence of staff on the policy decisions has been decreasing over time. Since about the '70s, we have seen members of Congress push higher and higher proportions of their staff to their local offices, leaving a vacuum of information in Washington. This vacuum has become filled with lobbyists as they write legislation for the elected members and provide them with information to sway them. By limiting the terms of Representatives and Senators, then there is going to be even more reliance on these outside sources of influence as the members will lack the expertise as well. So less washington staffs is resulting in more lawmakers who know more and screw stuff up more often than not... But we need to keep those guys because ... Well... We might wind up With lawmakers who screw stuff more often than not? Go on, pull the other one. ![]() |