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New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - BFritz21 - 01-23-2019 Pro-Choice people still think it's ok because it's "her body"? The baby can obviously live on its own and likely could have been delivered already, but it's ok to murder it? It's obviously not just a glob of cells anymore, which I've seen some on here say, but is it still ok because it's her choice? See, it's a slippery slope when you say it's ok at one point and not another. A sad and evil day: Quote:New York legislators cheered and applauded Tuesday night after the state Senate removed restrictions on late-term abortions, allowing unborn babies to be aborted on the day of birth. Absolutely horrible. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - bfine32 - 01-23-2019 This cannot be factual. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Nebuchadnezzar - 01-24-2019 (01-23-2019, 11:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This cannot be factual. The wording is troubling, no doubt. A woman can now get an abortion in New York after 24 weeks if the woman's life or "Health" is in danger. So, essentially a woman can get an abortion up until birth if she says, "I'm depressed". RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - GMDino - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 12:17 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: The wording is troubling, no doubt. No. That is not her life being in danger. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - bfine32 - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 12:17 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: The wording is troubling, no doubt. (01-24-2019, 12:27 AM)GMDino Wrote: No. As much as I abhor the act of abortion; I support giving the woman the choice if her physical health (especially "life being in danger") is an issue. If it's extended to mental health or simply because of choice then obviously I find it to be absurd. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Benton - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 12:40 AM)bfine32 Wrote: As much as I abhor the act of abortion; I support giving the woman the choice if her physical health (especially "life being in danger") is an issue. If it's extended to mental health or simply because of choice then obviously I find it to be absurd. That's pretty much my thoughts. I haven't heard this bill extends to depression, but if so, that's not a good thing. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - BFritz21 - 01-24-2019 I still see some people arguing that it's the woman's choice because it's her body, which is bullshit because, it might be in her body, but it's a fully developed baby now that can live outside the womb. I'd love to hear the people that defend abortion because it's just "destroying a fetus" defend this one. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Nebuchadnezzar - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 12:27 AM)GMDino Wrote: No. The bill states to protect the Patients life or health. It says nothing about physical health, just health. This can be interpreted as mental, physical, emotional...whatever. This law should be challenged and made to clarify what it means by "Health". RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Benton - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 02:32 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: The bill states to protect the Patients life or health. https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796 Probably something that will be challenged. Although, I don't know much about NY law. Could be their courts already interpret "health" as something physical. No idea. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Belsnickel - 01-24-2019 FWIW, here is a link to the NYCLU's page on this legislation: https://www.nyclu.org/en/legislation/reproductive-health-act RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - GMDino - 01-24-2019 If I find the article I read a few days ago I will post it but this is something that has been changing in NY for 80 years. I guess there was a law on the books that made abortions legal for any reason at any time (from the 1800s?) and they have altered many times since then. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - GMDino - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 10:14 AM)GMDino Wrote: If I find the article I read a few days ago I will post it but this is something that has been changing in NY for 80 years. I guess there was a law on the books that made abortions legal for any reason at any time (from the 1800s?) and they have altered many times since then. Here she be: https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/22/long-stalled-abortion-bill-passes-new-york-legislature/?fbclid=IwAR2FRGvKsYOw2wLtkuJdrTlbyOAUYact8Vn_zPrz9c5sRCoWgq139_q61_Y Quote:A generations’ old fight plays out .... RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - BFritz21 - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 03:36 AM)Benton Wrote: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796 Just heard on the radio that it can be anything, mental or physical. Like I keep saying, it’s a slippery slope. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Nately120 - 01-24-2019 I haven't looked into this, but my grad school roommate's wife who is a NY lawyer type posted this. Maybe it clears things up, probably not. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - GMDino - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 11:20 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Just heard on the radio that it can be anything, mental or physical. I heard it can't be "anything". So I guess we're at a stalemate. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Nately120 - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 11:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: I heard it can't be "anything". So I guess we're at a stalemate. Well, ol' Bfritz21 was pretty upset about people spreading fake news in that situation with the smirking teen and the drumming native dude, so I'm sure he made certain he had the full story on this before he starting going ape. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - Belsnickel - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 11:20 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Just heard on the radio that it can be anything, mental or physical. Did Rush tell you that? RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - BmorePat87 - 01-24-2019 Makes sense. It's written to ensure that a woman can get an abortion to save her life if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade. You wouldn't "abort" a full term baby, you'd induce labor, right? I don't see why anyone would be concerned about people killing full term babies on a whim. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - BFritz21 - 01-24-2019 (01-24-2019, 11:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: I heard it can't be "anything". So I guess we're at a stalemate.Where'd you hear that? Actually, though, I also just found found this article: Quote:Jacobs said New York’s longtime statute permitting legal abortions until the 24th week of a pregnancy is already among the longest in the world, and that the new provision allowing later term abortions for also the “health” of the mother can be interpreted as mental or emotional conditions. So what do you have? Thanks for calling me like I was bluffing because it actually required me to go find it in print (01-24-2019, 11:52 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Well, ol' Bfritz21 was pretty upset about people spreading fake news in that situation with the smirking teen and the drumming native dude, so I'm sure he made certain he had the full story on this before he starting going ape.When did I go "ape"? Empty rhetoric weakens your argument to anyone that's paying attention. As you'll see above, I just provided a link. (01-24-2019, 01:32 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Did Rush tell you that? Nope. It was on a big news station. As you'll see above, though, I found where it's true. RE: New York Legalizes Abortion Until Day Of Birth - bfine32 - 01-24-2019 Sadly it makes it hard to make an informed judgement by reading this thread.From the limited research I did it was already legal for a woman in NY to have a late-term abortion if her life were in jeopardy. This new law extends it to "health". Seems they passed the Law to give themselves a little more flexibility as to what "health" entails. |