(04-12-2019, 02:01 PM)SErebel11 Wrote: Wilkins for me. I would rather have Zach Allen than Gary. Not sure why the Bengals have had meetings with Gary, Ferguson, and Polite but not Allen.

(04-12-2019, 01:25 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think Christian Wilkins and Rashan Gary are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to the type of player they are vs what potential they have.

Christian Wilkins has been a productive force for Clemson his entire collegiate career, is well refined, but not considered quite as elite athletically as Rashan Gary. In other words, he has a (very) high floor but not an ultra-high ceiling. He's pretty much the definition of a safe above-average quality starter for the NFL.

Rashan Gary, on the other hand, is much more potential rather than production at this point. He lit up the Combine with his display of athleticism. He's been discussed as playing too much DE at Michigan and would be best served at DT in the NFL to take advantage of his strengths and mask his weaknesses. He's the definition of a gamble.

So given how different these two guys are coming into the draft, which would you take if you had to pick between them? The safe guy who may already be near his potential, or the unrefined one who could be otherworldly dominant if he can get the proper coaching he needs and put into the best position to succeed?

(04-13-2019, 02:31 PM)BengalFanInNJ Wrote: Screw Rashan Gary and all the other New Jersey recruits who went to Michigan.

(04-12-2019, 01:39 PM)Schmitbuck Wrote: I'm taking Wilkins over Gary 100%. Rashan Gary looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

(04-17-2019, 07:21 PM)yang Wrote: I haven't been high on Wilkins at all and have been surprised at the love. I looked to see if it was just me and at least Tags over at FantasyPros agrees with me.

41. Christian Wilkins DT (Clemson)
Many believed that Wilkins should have come to the NFL last year, but he chose to stay at Clemson for one more year. My issue with Wilkins is that he can easily be directed in the direction a lineman wants him to go in the run-game. Wilkins is definitely a better pass-rusher than run-stuffer, but we also must remember that he was surrounded by tons of playmakers on that defensive line. He does a good job of getting his hands up when he can't get to the quarterback. I'd prefer to see him as a defensive end in a 3-4 defense rather than an interior lineman. His Combine performance was mediocre.

I think is more in line with all of us on Gary

20. Rashan Gary DT (Michigan)
There seems to be two sides to Gary, as some believe he was a disappointment at Michigan, while others believe he was playing out of position and misused much of the time. The concern is that he may be stuck in-between a defensive tackle and an edge rusher. He's a good athlete, so I'd prefer him to drop a few pounds and move to a base end in a 4-3 defense, though it's good to know he has versatility to play anywhere on the defensive line. He has enough strength to drive linemen back but would like to see a bit more closing speed at the point of tackle. He seems like a solid player to me, though not elite. He made a great impression at the NFL Combine, showing off his athleticism.

(04-17-2019, 07:21 PM)yang Wrote: I haven't been high on Wilkins at all and have been surprised at the love. I looked to see if it was just me and at least Tags over at FantasyPros agrees with me.

41. Christian Wilkins DT (Clemson)
Many believed that Wilkins should have come to the NFL last year, but he chose to stay at Clemson for one more year. My issue with Wilkins is that he can easily be directed in the direction a lineman wants him to go in the run-game. Wilkins is definitely a better pass-rusher than run-stuffer, but we also must remember that he was surrounded by tons of playmakers on that defensive line. He does a good job of getting his hands up when he can't get to the quarterback. I'd prefer to see him as a defensive end in a 3-4 defense rather than an interior lineman. His Combine performance was mediocre.

I think is more in line with all of us on Gary

20. Rashan Gary DT (Michigan)
There seems to be two sides to Gary, as some believe he was a disappointment at Michigan, while others believe he was playing out of position and misused much of the time. The concern is that he may be stuck in-between a defensive tackle and an edge rusher. He's a good athlete, so I'd prefer him to drop a few pounds and move to a base end in a 4-3 defense, though it's good to know he has versatility to play anywhere on the defensive line. He has enough strength to drive linemen back but would like to see a bit more closing speed at the point of tackle. He seems like a solid player to me, though not elite. He made a great impression at the NFL Combine, showing off his athleticism.