(06-25-2019, 08:25 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Well one way to look at this is that the Bengals will have essentially two first rounders next year.

With that said this really sucks.

(06-25-2019, 07:42 PM)mikey6866 Wrote: Great coaches usually dont have people like bobby hart and nick vigil looking like locks to start.  Not even Belichick can make up for some of the glaring holes on this roster.  Oh and we dont have tom brady either.

(06-25-2019, 07:49 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: ZT has zero idea how tough this division is and going to be.The browns are stacked to win this division going away and I could easily see us tanking and being the last in the AFC north.If all of us fans are realistic about this upcoming season with new everything in bengleland, you have to realize we are going to go through a tough season.You just know key players are going to get hurt and this team has more injuries than the armed forces and I am a vet.He is going to have his eyes opened big time,the ravens have a upcoming qb that is going to be great,the steelers are the steelers,and the brownies are stacked everywhere including a top qb  and I believe they are going to be a big time tough out. I could say maybe 7 wins as you know these teams we are facing this season will figure ZT out and just out coach the guy,they will bait him all game as a unproven dude and he will suffer loses to learn from.I am being a bad man now but I see what I see.They will have to prove me otherwise,been around the game 50 years and to me no one fears the nati. :paul:

(06-25-2019, 08:36 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Wow. That was a tough read. 1 man does not make a team. ZT being a first time HC does not make him apt to be baited like an 8th grader going into HS. Geez, have a little more trust in the smarts others praise him for having. Not saying he won’t make mistakes. Belichick makes mistakes too. Coaching is going to help the guys overcome adversity.

(06-25-2019, 03:53 PM)pally Wrote: our 1st round luck looks even worse when it is listed out

Rookie years of #Bengals recent first-rounders:
2015: Ced Ogbuehi limited only 5 games, college ACL
2016: Will Jackson III misses year with torn pec in camp
2017: John Ross plays 17 snaps due to injury, etc
2018: Billy Price misses 6 games (foot)
2019: Jonah Williams torn labrum

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) June 25, 2019

(06-25-2019, 08:39 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I would say disbelief but..... well, you guys know! I am determined to live to see another strong, playoff team. I’m hoping that I’m not 100 and blind when it happens!

(06-25-2019, 03:53 PM)pally Wrote: our 1st round luck looks even worse when it is listed out

Rookie years of #Bengals recent first-rounders:
2015: Ced Ogbuehi limited only 5 games, college ACL
2016: Will Jackson III misses year with torn pec in camp
2017: John Ross plays 17 snaps due to injury, etc
2018: Billy Price misses 6 games (foot)
2019: Jonah Williams torn labrum

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) June 25, 2019

(06-25-2019, 07:49 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: ZT has zero idea how tough this division is and going to be.The browns are stacked to win this division going away and I could easily see us tanking and being the last in the AFC north.If all of us fans are realistic about this upcoming season with new everything in bengleland, you have to realize we are going to go through a tough season.You just know key players are going to get hurt and this team has more injuries than the armed forces and I am a vet.He is going to have his eyes opened big time,the ravens have a upcoming qb that is going to be great,the steelers are the steelers,and the brownies are stacked everywhere including a top qb  and I believe they are going to be a big time tough out. I could say maybe 7 wins as you know these teams we are facing this season will figure ZT out and just out coach the guy,they will bait him all game as a unproven dude and he will suffer loses to learn from.I am being a bad man now but I see what I see.They will have to prove me otherwise,been around the game 50 years and to me no one fears the nati. :paul:

(06-25-2019, 06:45 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Atleast our 2nd Round pick is a blocking TE. That will be exciting watching him...block.

(06-25-2019, 07:49 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: ZT has zero idea how tough this division is and going to be.The browns are stacked to win this division going away and I could easily see us tanking and being the last in the AFC north.If all of us fans are realistic about this upcoming season with new everything in bengleland, you have to realize we are going to go through a tough season.You just know key players are going to get hurt and this team has more injuries than the armed forces and I am a vet.He is going to have his eyes opened big time,the ravens have a upcoming qb that is going to be great,the steelers are the steelers,and the brownies are stacked everywhere including a top qb  and I believe they are going to be a big time tough out. I could say maybe 7 wins as you know these teams we are facing this season will figure ZT out and just out coach the guy,they will bait him all game as a unproven dude and he will suffer loses to learn from.I am being a bad man now but I see what I see.They will have to prove me otherwise,been around the game 50 years and to me no one fears the nati. :paul:

(06-25-2019, 03:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: #SameDey

All but guarantees that when Williams sucks in 2020, people will pull out the "he was hurt his rookie year, he's basically a rookie" classic.

Shame that injuries ruined the 2019 season. But man, just wait until 2020. They'll let some people go in FA, get some sweet compensatory picks, all the people hurt each of the last four years will magically all be healthy, and will be surefire shots to win the SB.



At some point the "bad luck" becomes bad scouting, bad medical, and bad development. Flukes that happen nonstop aren't flukes. They're a pattern.

Look forward to some sweet Hobspin articles about how Hart has really turned it around. Probably through MMA... or interpretive dance. Then there will be threads made about how they sure were glad Hart was around, as if he wasn't cut by the Giants for being terrible, and then terrible for the Bengals.

Wake me up when it's no longer Groundhog Day.

(06-25-2019, 07:49 PM)fortyyearfan Wrote: ZT has zero idea how tough this division is and going to be.The browns are stacked to win this division going away and I could easily see us tanking and being the last in the AFC north.If all of us fans are realistic about this upcoming season with new everything in bengleland, you have to realize we are going to go through a tough season.You just know key players are going to get hurt and this team has more injuries than the armed forces and I am a vet.He is going to have his eyes opened big time,the ravens have a upcoming qb that is going to be great,the steelers are the steelers,and the brownies are stacked everywhere including a top qb  and I believe they are going to be a big time tough out. I could say maybe 7 wins as you know these teams we are facing this season will figure ZT out and just out coach the guy,they will bait him all game as a unproven dude and he will suffer loses to learn from.I am being a bad man now but I see what I see.They will have to prove me otherwise,been around the game 50 years and to me no one fears the nati. :paul:

(06-25-2019, 08:43 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I hear you. It honestly feels like we're closer to a rebuild than that.

Guys like Atkins/Dunlap/Green are 30/31. Their peak years are diminishing. It sucks.

(06-25-2019, 08:59 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: We have a lot of young players too though. WJ3, Hubbard, Bates, Lawson, Billings (he's only 23 still!), Boyd, Mixon, Preston Brown (26 is youngish),  Price (let's wait to see how good he is when he's healthy this year). There's no reason to panic too much about a rebuild yet.

(06-25-2019, 07:42 PM)mikey6866 Wrote: Great coaches usually dont have people like bobby hart and nick vigil looking like locks to start.  Not even Belichick can make up for some of the glaring holes on this roster.  Oh and we dont have tom brady either.