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Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - GMDino - 08-28-2019 We live in a very awful time, because of a very awful "man" who leads the country. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/8/27/incoming-freshman-deported/ Quote:UPDATED: Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:11 a.m. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Benton - 08-28-2019 I've read conflicting reports. If he made social media posts critical of the us, depending on the type, I'm ok with denying the visa. If he didn't, or if they were just jokes in poor taste, then I'm not. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - CJD - 08-29-2019 Quote:"She said that she found people posting political points of view that oppose the US on my friend[s] list." I have a friend on Facebook who has recently announced herself as transgendered and a socialist (not like Bernie or Warren. Full on Socialism). I am still friends with her because I think she's funny and part of a gaming community that I am a part of. I'm glad I'm a citizen and not an immigrant, I guess. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - GMDino - 08-29-2019 (08-28-2019, 11:03 PM)Benton Wrote: I've read conflicting reports. I'm not for barring anyone who makes a critical post about the US because it then falls on who is determining what is critical. If someone posted Trump seems crazy and his decisions are bad there are plenty of current citizens who would be aghast at such an affront to the office of the President versus someone posted they want to blow up the WH where most people would say that person should be watched a little closer and not allowed in to the country. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - TheLeonardLeap - 08-29-2019 (08-29-2019, 08:49 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I have a friend on Facebook who has recently announced herself as transgendered and a socialist (not like Bernie or Warren. Full on Socialism). (08-29-2019, 09:00 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'm not for barring anyone who makes a critical post about the US because it then falls on who is determining what is critical. Depends on what they posted for me, I guess. If they have friends who are full-on jihad/radicalized, I think you need to take a real close look. On the other hand, if it's the memes of Trump showing his drawings/writing in the oval office, then it's absurd. As shitty as it might be for this kid, he's not a citizen, so the standard response should probably err on the side of caution. Not letting a kid study abroad here is a shitty situation for them. Knowing about a potential threat and ignoring is is a worse situation, though. Would like to know more information about the situation before I really settle on one side or the other, though. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - GMDino - 08-29-2019 (08-29-2019, 09:45 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Depends on what they posted for me, I guess. If they have friends who are full-on jihad/radicalized, I think you need to take a real close look. On the other hand, if it's the memes of Trump showing his drawings/writing in the oval office, then it's absurd. Another consideration should be that the school had to have some kind of vetting process. I know, I know, it was more or less "can he afford it" but apparently he/his family can. I'd agree with you that if he was just coming here and didn't have a job, wasn't going to school, etc then we need to really check him out (that's what is done anyway) but if his story holds up it will appear to be more targeted at where he comes from than anything he did. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - TheLeonardLeap - 08-29-2019 (08-29-2019, 09:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: Another consideration should be that the school had to have some kind of vetting process. I know, I know, it was more or less "can he afford it" but apparently he/his family can. I'd agree with you that if he was just coming here and didn't have a job, wasn't going to school, etc then we need to really check him out (that's what is done anyway) but if his story holds up it will appear to be more targeted at where he comes from than anything he did. I would prefer to not outsource my homeland security to Harvard's background checks. Lol... I don't think they're looking for the same kind of things, or have the same kind of resources to spot potential threats to our nation (not saying that this kid necessarily is). His family can't afford it, your article states he got a scholarship from AMIDEAST to study here, but that's not even my concern. Records and all that are so shitty over there, so you want to be extra sure. He is part of a people who don't have a country, but have two different governments. I highly doubt that Palestinian paperwork and record keeping is on point. Then you throw in a factor of us not knowing exactly what was said by his friends. They could be reposting US soldier decapitation videos, or they could be retweeting Trump saying covfefe, or it could be anywhere in between. It's admittedly pretty pointless to speculate one way or the other without more information. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - GMDino - 08-29-2019 (08-29-2019, 10:08 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I would prefer to not outsource my homeland security to Harvard's background checks. Lol... I don't think they're looking for the same kind of things, or have the same kind of resources to spot potential threats to our nation (not saying that this kid necessarily is). Ha! I can agree with that. I could see "evil doers" trying to use student visas to gain entrance. I doubt they'd try Harvard, but I get the point. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Nately120 - 08-29-2019 (08-28-2019, 11:03 PM)Benton Wrote: I've read conflicting reports. It's so hard to keep up with stuff...from 2008-2016 I was told that being critical of the government was the crux of patriotism but now people are all "love it or GIT OUWWWWT!!" What changed? RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - SunsetBengal - 08-29-2019 (08-29-2019, 09:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: Another consideration should be that the school had to have some kind of vetting process. I know, I know, it was more or less "can he afford it" but apparently he/his family can. I'd agree with you that if he was just coming here and didn't have a job, wasn't going to school, etc then we need to really check him out (that's what is done anyway) but if his story holds up it will appear to be more targeted at where he comes from than anything he did. I'm just flabbergasted that academia decided to possibly err on the side of caution, rather than simply allowing a potential threat to seamlessly meld into campus culture. Kudos to Harvard. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Benton - 08-30-2019 (08-29-2019, 07:41 PM)Nately120 Wrote: It's so hard to keep up with stuff...from 2008-2016 I was told that being critical of the government was the crux of patriotism but now people are all "love it or GIT OUWWWWT!!" What changed? In this case, again, it depends on the criticism. But to answer your question: nothing. I criticize it almost daily, from the local level up. For a foreign tax-exempt student here, then... it depends on the criticism. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - michaelsean - 08-30-2019 (08-29-2019, 07:41 PM)Nately120 Wrote: It's so hard to keep up with stuff...from 2008-2016 I was told that being critical of the government was the crux of patriotism but now people are all "love it or GIT OUWWWWT!!" What changed? You were also told that from 2001-2008. Don't you remember screeching Hillary? Al Gore? RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - michaelsean - 08-30-2019 (08-29-2019, 10:25 AM)GMDino Wrote: Ha! I can agree with that. I could see "evil doers" trying to use student visas to gain entrance. I doubt they'd try Harvard, but I get the point. I'd trust Penn and Yale. Princeton maybe. No way Cornell and Brown. ![]() RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Nately120 - 08-30-2019 (08-30-2019, 09:14 AM)michaelsean Wrote: You were also told that from 2001-2008. Don't you remember screeching Hillary? Al Gore? Not particularly, but I'll admit that at that point I was more concerned with the USA becoming entrenched in potentially endless wars which earned Dick Cheney's cronies lots of money and gained more popularity with each soldier's death. I've since become a bit desensitized to that stuff, so if Al Gore and Hiliary Clinton were saying I was a patriot for having that viewpoint (and doing nothing to change anything, of course) then bully to me. RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Dill - 08-30-2019 (08-30-2019, 09:14 AM)michaelsean Wrote: You were also told that from 2001-2008. Don't you remember screeching Hillary? Al Gore? I don't remember. I was watching Fox News. Sean and Bill said hat criticizing the government was traitorous, supporting Al Qaeda. If you hate America though, you have a right to criticize Bush. You should just move to another country to do it. ![]() RE: Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked - Dill - 08-30-2019 The screaming officer reminds me a bit of an incident days after 9/11. A woman from New Hampshire or Vermont drove five hours to Boston to catch a plane, but was denied boarding by a 22 year old National Guardsman because she was flying to California to attend a conference on Ecology and environmentalism. Apparently that destination triggered his "radical" radar. Eco-terrorism, terrorism, Al Qaeda. Better be safe than sorry. Additional note: My wife, who is affiliated with a local college, tells me that a number of students have lost their visas in the last year. Mostly from "those" countries. |