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RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:01 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Yeah, but in his half a season as OC, ZT called more plays as OC than Bienemy did in a full season as OC.
Yeah...and ZT as OC of the Dolphins managed to actually make Lazor's offense WORSE.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:53 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I named 3 guys. Bieniemy, while you may not like him...has more NFL experience than Taylor. And I feel like IF we hired Bieniemy, you all would be talking about how great he is.
It is called supporting your favorite team. You should try it sometime, it's fun.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:03 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So hire a coach with little experience and success? Kind of sounds like the Shula hiring if you're going to look at parallels of past coaches.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but expecting people to hate their favorite teams new head coach BEFORE he has even coached a game is pretty rediculous.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:04 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: It is called supporting your favorite team. You should try it sometime, it's fun.
There are absolutely things I support about the team. I just give opinions. I feel ZT is underwhelming.
I think Green, Mixon, and Boyd are GREAT players. Mixon does amazing things behind a bad offensive line. <--- There's some positivity.
I'm not just going to be like, WOW - ZT is GREAT! He's going to turn us into a contender! If I don't believe it.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:02 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Lafleur is the only one you've named who is actually coaching another NFL team. Lincoln Riley made it known that he did not want to go to the NFL yet.
If you want coaches hired by other teams, I think Belicheck would be a good coach for the Bengals.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:06 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: There are absolutely things I support about the team. I just give opinions. I feel ZT is underwhelming.
I think Green, Mixon, and Boyd are GREAT players. Mixon does amazing things behind a bad offensive line. <--- There's some positivity.
I'm not just going to be like, WOW - ZT is GREAT! He's going to turn us into a contender! If I don't believe it.
Did you form those opinions prior to them playing a single regular season NFL game? Especially Boyd??
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:06 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but expecting people to hate their favorite teams new head coach BEFORE he has even coached a game is pretty rediculous.
Oh ZT has coached games...you guys just don't like to admit that the results of his track record are bad.
0 playoff wins in 28 years. Do you think this is our year to win 1?
In a league when most teams have won 5+ since we last won 1.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:07 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Did you form those opinions prior to them playing a single regular season NFL game? Especially Boyd??
Actually YES on Boyd. He grew up about 30 minutes from where I live and I followed him in college and saw him play in person. I wanted the Bengals to draft him.
I'll wait for your applause now.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:10 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Oh ZT has coached games...you guys just don't like to admit that the results of his track record are bad.
0 playoff wins in 28 years. Do you think this is our year to win 1?
In a league when most teams have won 5+ since we last won 1.
He has not been an NFL Headcoach before. Probably not, but I also do not expect him to work miracles with a subpar roster. I mean Marvin had 16 years why cant I give ZT 1?
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - grampahol - 09-05-2019
Well he did turn Cincinnati into Rome at the height of the Roman empire so there's that..
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:11 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Actually YES on Boyd. He grew up about 30 minutes from where I live and I followed him in college and saw him play in person. I wanted the Bengals to draft him.
I'll wait for your applause now.
Don't flatter yourself.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:12 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: He has not been an NFL Headcoach before. Probably not, but I also do not expect him to work miracles with a subpar roster. I mean Marvin had 16 years why cant I give ZT 1?
Ok. So you think the roster is subpar.
Lets get to know you a bit:
How did you feel about the free agent signings? The draft? How about the coordinators?
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - THE PISTONS - 09-05-2019
Favorite external free agent signing? Webb, John Jerry, John Miller, or Kerry Wynn?
50% of our free agent signings were named John.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Ok. So you think the roster is subpar.
Lets get to know you a bit:
How did you feel about the free agent signings? The draft? How about the coordinators?
Free agent signings: Meh... but expected.
Draft: some good picks...injuries will take away some optimism to 1st rounder. Some good potential
Coordinators: cautiously optimistic.
16 years of Marvin, I can give some grace to new staff.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:17 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Favorite external free agent signing? Webb, John Jerry, John Miller, or Kerry Wynn?
50% of our free agent signings were named John.
Don't care for any of them but Miller and Wynn will probably contribute the most especially when Dennard is back and Webb moves back on Depth Chart.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - fredtoast - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:09 PM)McC Wrote: Bieniemy has a title. Andy Reid has the job. Taylor was every bit as much involved in the Rams offense as Bieneimy did in KC's. I'm repeating this because you ignored it the first time I said it.
I did not ignore it. In fact I commented on you making up stuff and claiming it was true.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - fredtoast - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:41 PM)Whatever Wrote: You're arguing for a guy we know for a fact that nobody else wanted. Both guys were interviewed here. Taylor got the job.
Maybe Taylor was the only one willing to work under the terms mike Brown was offering.
Remember all of the DC's we tried to hire that turned us down.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - fredtoast - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:00 PM)McC Wrote: LaFleur was hired almost immediately by the Packers, so never in play at all. So, for the love of God, take his name off the damn list.
He was absolutely in play. Bengals just moved too slow.
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - Rubekahn29 - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: He was absolutely in play. Bengals just moved too slow.
And you know he wanted to come here....how?
RE: How Much Power Does ZT Have? - fredtoast - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 06:32 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: And you know he wanted to come here....how?
I have no idea. All I know is that he was looking for a job and we had one to offer.
How do you know he wouldn't come here?