(11-12-2019, 11:53 AM)ochocincos Wrote: If Taylor is kept, let's see what changes actually come this offseason.

I know I probably sound like an optimist (I'm not, honestly!), but I do think that Taylor didn't have enough time and/or resources to implement his plan accordingly last offseason given he came in so late and took so long to fill his staff. By that point, there wasn't much time to evaluate players that fit what they are trying to do, so they kept a lot of the same guys. Now, (hopefully) they are realizing that many of these players and/or staff members are not a fit and will look to replace them in the offseason.

(11-12-2019, 11:59 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The main issues seem to be the coordinators. (And Taylor is essentially one of them.)

(11-12-2019, 10:29 AM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: He's not overly wrong here.  This could be chalked up to growing pains and he may have an approach that he is trying to move toward.

However, I don't see the approach.  With Marvin it was obvious, control the ToP, play stingy defense, field position, don't make mistakes and have every drive end in a kick.  It didn't work out for Marvin but it is a winning philosophy.  Marvin made sure to get people that understood his philosophy and that was why he did have the success he did.  His biggest issue was not making the moves he needed to make fast enough.

ZT hasn't really shown that he knows what philosophy he wants to use.  He just seems to be grabbing random people and then telling us that he has a plan.  Drew Sample is an example of this.  I am sure somethings got derailed, like Williams' injury, Green's injury, Glenn's "concussion", Boling retiring and a few other surprise bumps and bruises along the way with some players being out.

I mean our OLine with Glenn (who isn't great but serviceable), Boling, Hopkins, ? (probably Price or Jerry) and Williams would be much better than what we have now.  Obviously Green being out hurts our WRs as Boyd is not a #1 WR.  So if he is in the line up with the line ZT expected to have, maybe we see the philosophy a little more clearer.  Maybe we have more wins than we do, maybe we lead the division and everyone is on clouds.  Who knows, but the reality is that injuries and retirements happen all the time, and you have to adjust for them.  Failure to do so can lead to this disaster that we have going on.

Maybe he is right, maybe this is the only time we go through this.  Maybe he does build up a team that wins consistently.  This is why I am not writing him off just yet.  This coming offseason will be very telling.  If he panics and goes QB with our first pick, then I will just have another reason to be skeptical and believe that he is just winging it, with no real plan.  I will give him a chance even with a QB pick, but wouldn't be surprised if we continue to fail.  Then we can mock him for these sound bites.

(11-12-2019, 01:03 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I'd be a little more on board if I knew what right approach he is talking about.

(11-12-2019, 01:33 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: Name one player who has improved. That is all i was looking for going into the season. Improvement.

(11-12-2019, 10:29 AM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: He's not overly wrong here.  This could be chalked up to growing pains and he may have an approach that he is trying to move toward.

However, I don't see the approach.  With Marvin it was obvious, control the ToP, play stingy defense, field position, don't make mistakes and have every drive end in a kick.  It didn't work out for Marvin but it is a winning philosophy.  Marvin made sure to get people that understood his philosophy and that was why he did have the success he did.  His biggest issue was not making the moves he needed to make fast enough.

ZT hasn't really shown that he knows what philosophy he wants to use.  He just seems to be grabbing random people and then telling us that he has a plan.  Drew Sample is an example of this.  I am sure somethings got derailed, like Williams' injury, Green's injury, Glenn's "concussion", Boling retiring and a few other surprise bumps and bruises along the way with some players being out.

I mean our OLine with Glenn (who isn't great but serviceable), Boling, Hopkins, ? (probably Price or Jerry) and Williams would be much better than what we have now.  Obviously Green being out hurts our WRs as Boyd is not a #1 WR.  So if he is in the line up with the line ZT expected to have, maybe we see the philosophy a little more clearer.  Maybe we have more wins than we do, maybe we lead the division and everyone is on clouds.  Who knows, but the reality is that injuries and retirements happen all the time, and you have to adjust for them.  Failure to do so can lead to this disaster that we have going on.

Maybe he is right, maybe this is the only time we go through this.  Maybe he does build up a team that wins consistently.  This is why I am not writing him off just yet.  This coming offseason will be very telling.  If he panics and goes QB with our first pick, then I will just have another reason to be skeptical and believe that he is just winging it, with no real plan.  I will give him a chance even with a QB pick, but wouldn't be surprised if we continue to fail.  Then we can mock him for these sound bites.