NFL announces Cardinals DB Josh Shaw will be suspended through the 2020 season for gambling on pro football. League says there's no evidence that he used any inside info or that any game was compromised.

He's been on IR since the summer. He has 3 days to appeal.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) November 29, 2019

(11-30-2019, 10:13 PM)pally Wrote: Say goodbye to Andre for this year.  It is time for him to finally put the Bengals behind him so I sincerely hope this is the last we see of him.  His time is past.

TE Morgan Shreck promoted from PS.   I do wonder if we have a surprise injury among our seldomly used tight ends that prompted this move

#Eagles K Jake Elliott's 5-year extension is worth over $21m with roughly $10.5m guaranteed, source said. Puts him in top-3 for APY+total guarantees for the position.

Elliott, who was scheduled to be an RFA in March, is 14 for 14 on FG attempts this season.

— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 27, 2019

(11-30-2019, 10:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

#Eagles K Jake Elliott's 5-year extension is worth over $21m with roughly $10.5m guaranteed, source said. Puts him in top-3 for APY+total guarantees for the position.

Elliott, who was scheduled to be an RFA in March, is 14 for 14 on FG attempts this season.

— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 27, 2019

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(11-30-2019, 10:13 PM)pally Wrote: Say goodbye to Andre for this year.  It is time for him to finally put the Bengals behind him so I sincerely hope this is the last we see of him.  His time is past.

TE Morgan Shreck promoted from PS.   I do wonder if we have a surprise injury among our seldomly used tight ends that prompted this move

(11-30-2019, 11:17 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Started his career as a laughingstock. Out of shape and struggled with injury.

He eventually got his act together and was one of the best RTs in the league '12-'14.  But he waasuch a famous "bust" that a lot of people never gave him credit when he did play well.

But he is horrible now.  Last year Bobby Hart allowed 1.5 more sacks than Dre (7.5 to 6) but he played over twice as many snaps as Smith (995-492).  That's how bad Andre last year.  The Cardinals cut him because he sucked.  But this year our O-line was such a wreck Dre was our starting LEFT TACKLE opening day.  

We never had a chance.

(11-30-2019, 11:46 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The infamous draft videos of him running are what most people remember. Interestingly, Ced who we drafted later had the prototypical body of a Tackle...fairly lean and muscular...Andre had a better career.

(11-30-2019, 11:46 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The infamous draft videos of him running are what most people remember. Interestingly, Ced who we drafted later had the prototypical body of a Tackle...fairly lean and muscular...Andre had a better career.

I think a bunch of us questioned how he'd age...and his play fell off a cliff last year as you alluded to.

The 2009 draft was pretty bad for top end talent. LOTS of busts. Andre was arguably the 3rd best player in the Top 10.

At 1: Stafford - Above Average to Good QB
2: Jason Smith OT - Bust
3: Tyson Jackson DE - Bust
4: Aaron Curry DE - Bust - (He's the cautionary tale for those that think Chase Young is can't miss.)
5: Mark Sanchez QB
6: Andre Smith
7: Darius Heyward-Bey - WR - Bust
8: Eugene Monroe - Bust
9: BJ Raji - Good to Great Player
10: Michael Crabtree: Above Average to Good
11: Aaron Maybin - Bust - I think we had him here for camp one year.
12: Knowshon Moreno

(11-30-2019, 11:45 PM)scorp1974 Wrote: He will be back with the team next year.

(12-01-2019, 08:34 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: He'll be back.

(11-30-2019, 10:43 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: TE's Sample AND Carter out. Sample has been out. Carter being injured probably necessitates Shreck being brought up.

(12-01-2019, 11:15 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Tyler Eifert: Our ironman TE

(11-30-2019, 11:22 PM)jason Wrote: Do we even have a kicker anymore?