(03-17-2020, 04:36 PM)McC Wrote: The Raiders were too busy signing two better guys.

I don't have a problem keeping Vigil but not a a big number and absolutely not if he's our best LB.

(03-17-2020, 04:14 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: hard to compete with no income tax ask MJ93     While bengals offer fair market deals we rarely try and overpay for players.  We lost this bidding war..  OR Schobert just choose Jacksonville.  Its not always about that 1 to 2 million sometimes there are other factors.

Like maybe he likes trips to london

(03-17-2020, 04:40 PM)caneyoufeelit Wrote: Let's face it: Free agents are still using the Bengals to leverage with other teams. We would've not only had to match but offer probably 10-20% more than Jacksonville for them to come here.  

(03-17-2020, 04:34 PM)samhain Wrote: Yes!  Now I can buy my Nick Vigina Vaginal fart jersey when he get's his 5 year 40 mil extension!  Stupid Raiders and Gunther.  Really hoped they'd sign him to prevent this from happening.

(03-17-2020, 04:27 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I mean, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN - which seems like a credible source - says we just weren't willing to match Jacksonville's offer...which implies that he would've signed if we'd matched. Either way, our offer wasn't competitive. We always seem to be the team who isn't willing to slightly overpay...which normally isn't a terrible thing, but when you are sitting on this much cap space, that would be the time to not nickel and dime it.

Whatever though. I'm sure all will be fine, just as it has for the last 30 years. Since free agency was implemented.

(03-17-2020, 03:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I am not happy either. Are we even looking at players? Haven't heard anything but the Wolfe visit.

(03-17-2020, 04:00 PM)pally Wrote:

The Bengals were trying aggressively to get ILB Joe Schobert but wouldn't match Jacksonville's final asking price, which is a massive five-year, $53.75-million deal.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 17, 2020

(03-17-2020, 05:00 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The problem here is not only do we lose out on Schobert, we lose out on time.

While we were concentrating on a losing effort with Schobert, other free agents and trades are just flying off the board.

We move at a sloth's pace and fail to sign our first target, now what?

This legal tampering period makes the cream of the crop disappear in the blink of an eye.

(03-17-2020, 05:23 PM)BrownAssClown Wrote: What's funny is that we will sign some middle to lower tier free agents, if were lucky, and some will still think "We knocked it outta the park!" or at least be satisfied with the scraps we signed. Just look at who we already missed out on. Did other teams overpay? Most assuredly they did, but never us. NEVER! Then to piss on the parade you'll have Hobspin with his usual spin and Troy Blackburn say," What should we have done? Just can't go to Walmart and pick quality free agents off the rack." I guess Mike Brown and crew are counting on the draft to get fans up to the "STOKED" level on the "Fan-o-meter". Works every time.

(03-17-2020, 04:15 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Free agents arent always smart... Last time Dolphins did that...  Most of them didn't see year 2 of their contracts.

(03-17-2020, 04:40 PM)samhain Wrote: Yep.  Tired of this team's lame ass excuses.  I'm sure they just tried their widdle hearts out to get him to come to Cincinnati.  They'll point to that as an example of their newfound aggressiveness. 

(03-17-2020, 05:26 PM)McC Wrote: While I can't see going the Miami route and overpaying a slew of guys, which they seemingly did(they sure didn't learn that from BillyB), but overpaying one guy who makes you better doesn't exactly strike me as the crime of the century.  Andi f he does make you better, it doesn't even end up being overpaying.