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SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Belsnickel - 06-15-2020 As some of you may remember, there was a NYC gun rights case that was dismissed by the court this year as moot. There was discussion that this maybe wasn't the "right" case to challenge the gun laws and that Kavanaugh had suggested they take one up soon. Well, there were 10 that got looked at this past month, and the court decided to not hear any of them. https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/06/after-long-wait-court-spurns-gun-rights-challenges/ Quote:In late April the Supreme Court sent a challenge to the constitutionality of New York City’s ban on the transport of handguns outside the city back to the lower court without ruling on whether the ban was constitutional. By a vote of 6-3, the justices concluded that the case was moot – that is, no longer a live controversy – because the city had changed the rule last year. In a concurring opinion, Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested that the lower courts “may not be properly applying” the Supreme Court’s most recent gun rights rulings, and he recommended that the justices take up another Second Amendment case “soon.” RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-15-2020 Very frustrated by this. There are four, solidly, pro 2A justices in the court right now. The speculation is that Roberts has turned into a milksop and is the new swing vote on the court. As much as I dislike Trump we need another conservative justice or we're back to stalemate on this issue. On a side note, I'll be very interested in seeing if your prediction on Virginia proves true. RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - GMDino - 06-15-2020 Didn't they also say they won't look at the qualified immunity for police? That's a big one too. Naturally they are being accused of judicial advocacy on line in this and the LGBTQ case. RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Benton - 06-16-2020 When my conservative friends were cheering for Big K to get on the court to "fix" all the conservative issues (abortion, gun rights, etc) I cautioned them that they would likely be very disappointed. This isn't a conservative court, it's a pro corporate court. The only issues theyll be fixing are giving corporations more freedom. RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Nately120 - 06-16-2020 (06-16-2020, 03:22 AM)Benton Wrote: When my conservative friends were cheering for Big K to get on the court to "fix" all the conservative issues (abortion, gun rights, etc) I cautioned them that they would likely be very disappointed. This isn't a conservative court, it's a pro corporate court. The only issues theyll be fixing are giving corporations more freedom. Cant they just run this country like a business......that sells guns? RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-16-2020 (06-16-2020, 03:22 AM)Benton Wrote: When my conservative friends were cheering for Big K to get on the court to "fix" all the conservative issues (abortion, gun rights, etc) I cautioned them that they would likely be very disappointed. This isn't a conservative court, it's a pro corporate court. The only issues theyll be fixing are giving corporations more freedom. Kavanaugh isn't the issue on the 2A cases, Roberts is. Roberts is the new swing vote on the court. Kavanaugh is extremely pro 2A. RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - samhain - 06-16-2020 (06-16-2020, 03:22 AM)Benton Wrote: When my conservative friends were cheering for Big K to get on the court to "fix" all the conservative issues (abortion, gun rights, etc) I cautioned them that they would likely be very disappointed. This isn't a conservative court, it's a pro corporate court. The only issues theyll be fixing are giving corporations more freedom. Yeah, we got a nice new arbitration agreement at my place of employment once the Trump justices were seated. We can no longer sue them, and if we have a grievance, we get to pick from one of a small number of their arbitrators, lol. Also, no class action ever. Funniest part was, the people who were the most upset about the announcement were the Trump fans. They think they dun got thur freedumb took by the boss, when in reality they took it from themselves voting for a guy that would install justices who would provide that option for employers. MAGA! RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - fredtoast - 06-16-2020 Cracks me up when gun rights activists talk about "Pro 2A" when what they really mean is "Pro 2A while ignoring the part of 2A that mentions the militia". Just ask how many of them are willing to sign up as members of the State militia in order to secure their gun rights. RE: SCOTUS and Gun Rights - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-16-2020 (06-16-2020, 04:34 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Cracks me up when gun rights activists talk about "Pro 2A" when what they really mean is "Pro 2A while ignoring the part of 2A that mentions the militia". No one ignores it because the militia is all men of fighting age. This isn't in dispute by any serious constitutional scholar. It was also reaffirmed by the SCOTUS post Civil War. Since we live in a more egalitarian age I think we can extend the right to own a firearm to all people, not just men. Or do you disagree? Also Heller clearly stated that the right to own a firearm for person protection is guaranteed by the second amendment. Quit simply, you couldn't be more incorrect with this attempt at an argument. You still did an excellent job in the "What comes next" thread, so kudos on that. |