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RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-11-2020 (08-11-2020, 09:31 AM)michaelsean Wrote: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/how-deadly-is-covid-19-for-children-here-s-what-we-know-1.5023528 You’re right kids are low risk and most pediatric cases will most likely be mild. That’s why my wife and I agreed to let our daughter attend traditional classes instead of distance learning. But, since Georgia has seen a rise in Covid cases over the summer all classes will be online for the first three weeks and then they will reassess. Our school district is 30K+. If we use the numbers from your source that means three kids will probably die from Covid. Three kids out of the entire school district seems reassuring until it’s your kid. The risk seems acceptably low enough for us. But, that’s the crux, isn’t it? RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - michaelsean - 08-11-2020 (08-11-2020, 12:36 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You’re right kids are low risk and most pediatric cases will most likely be mild. That’s why my wife and I agreed to let our daughter attend traditional classes instead of distance learning. But, since Georgia has seen a rise in Covid cases over the summer all classes will be online for the first three weeks and then they will reassess. It was one out of ten thousand infected, and we may not know how accurate that is as literally only one child of the 7000+ known cases in this area died, and there is no information on anything else about her. Obviously it's one area, it's a fair amount of people to go on I suppose. These are children who actually had it, so I don't know that it should differ a lot based on local behavior such as mask wearing and distancing, but I'm horrible at statistics and everything that goes into what constitutes a valid group so.... Edit: And I get it, if you are the one or the three or whatever, then none of this matters. My son will be going away to college this year. (Hopefully) He lost a lot his senior year, and I'm not taking this away if he wants to go. If you run a macro environment based on the micro, you're never going to do anything again. That's my opinion anyway. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-13-2020 (08-12-2020, 11:46 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Look at Ohio, KY and Indiana where Bengals and most fans live That’s would be great if the Bengals only played teams from Ohio, Kentucky, and IN. But, maybe that’s why it’s called the National Football League and not the Ohio River Valley Football League? Because they play nationally? Quote:We are not NYC and did not poorly manage nursing homes. That is the issue with national numbers versus state by state numbers or even counties Yeah, that’s what TX, FL, GA, and AZ said, too. But, OH, KY, and IN don’t have herd immunity and it’s only a matter of time until they become the new hot spots. Anyway, my comments were directed at the false comment that masks are useless and the virus is overhyped. You can find the studies I’ve already posted on masks and check with the CDC for the leading causes of deaths in the US. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - GMDino - 08-13-2020
Quote:The Cherokee County district — which has an enrollment of 42,000, of whom over 30,000 are receiving in-person instruction — recommends but does not require students to wear masks. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - BengalHawk62 - 08-13-2020 (08-11-2020, 11:28 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The problem with all of this, and similar attitudes, is that it isn't just about the individual saying these things. When people flout the masking ordinances, social distancing, etc., it's not just themselves they put at risk but everyone they interact with. If you are willing to put yourself at risk, fine, I don't care. However, the reason why the government has the authority to put out these mandates is because what you choose to do has an impact on all of those around you. The old saying about "your rights end at the tip of my nose" comes into play here because going out without a mask and getting in close to people infringes on their rights. Does it suck? Sure does. But we just need to deal with it and think of someone other than yourself. (08-11-2020, 11:33 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Yep, people don't seem to realize living your life unafraid and unencumbered by covid regulations is more akin to driving drunk than not wearing your seatbelt. Yes, you are putting yourself at risk and that's fine but you are putting others at risk and that is not fine. I’m not trying to debate one way or another about masks, staying home, etc. I genuinely want to know what are requirements/benchmarks to no longer be called a pandemic? Is it after a certain percentage of people are vaccinated? How low do positive case results have to be to no longer need social distancing? I like solid numbers. I guess that’s what I’m looking for. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - Belsnickel - 08-13-2020 (08-13-2020, 10:24 AM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: I’m not trying to debate one way or another about masks, staying home, etc. I genuinely want to know what are requirements/benchmarks to no longer be called a pandemic? Is it after a certain percentage of people are vaccinated? How low do positive case results have to be to no longer need social distancing? I like solid numbers. I guess that’s what I’m looking for. Unfortunately, solid numbers aren't something I can find at this moment. What I can provide is how the WHO marks the phases of pandemic influenza: Quote:In nature, influenza viruses circulate continuously among animals, especially birds. Even though such viruses might theoretically develop into pandemic viruses, in Phase 1 no viruses circulating among animals have been reported to cause infections in humans. https://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/communicable-diseases/influenza/data-and-statistics/pandemic-influenza/about-pandemic-phases Now, obviously this situation is a different one than influenza. There isn't a seasonal coronavirus for us to measure it against. Based on this, the world is likely in the post-peak pandemic phase, but may not be. Looking at yesterday's WHO status report, we're still in the middle of this. https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200812-covid-19-sitrep-205.pdf?sfvrsn=627c9aa8_2 RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - Nately120 - 08-13-2020 (08-13-2020, 10:24 AM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: I’m not trying to debate one way or another about masks, staying home, etc. I genuinely want to know what are requirements/benchmarks to no longer be called a pandemic? Is it after a certain percentage of people are vaccinated? How low do positive case results have to be to no longer need social distancing? I like solid numbers. I guess that’s what I’m looking for. I'm still waiting for it to disappear one day like a miracle. The sun didn't kill it, so maybe falling leaves and Bengals victory over the Steelers will. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-13-2020 (08-13-2020, 10:11 AM)GMDino Wrote: Same district that suspended students for posting pictures of school conditions then revoked the suspension after public backlash. Today on NPR I listened to interviews from parents hoping to switch from traditional classes to distance learning only to be told it was too late to switch and classes were full. Only to have those decisions reversed due to public backlash, also. They seem to have a real leadership problem there. I thought their mask rules might be because of Kemp’s mask rules. So I checked our school district rules; staff are required to wear masks, students are required to wear a face covering when traditional classes resume which is TBD. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - GMDino - 08-13-2020 (08-13-2020, 11:27 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Same district that suspended students for posting pictures of school conditions then revoked the suspension after public backlash. Today on NPR I listened to interviews from parents hoping to switch from traditional classes to distance learning only to be told it was too late to switch and classes were full. Only to have those decisions reversed due to public backlash, also. They seem to have a real leadership problem there. Our district is the same. Everyone wants someone ELSE to make the first decision/move. None of these people, who WANTED to be elected to make these decisions, want to make a decision that might make someone angry at them. It's a joke. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-13-2020 (08-13-2020, 11:29 AM)GMDino Wrote: Our district is the same. Everyone wants someone ELSE to make the first decision/move. The CDC had more detailed guidance for schools to reopen safely. However, the Trump administration pressured them into editing their guidance to more generic recommendations leaving local school boards (who usually aren’t experts in disease prevention or public health) to make it up on the fly further contributing the White House leadership vacuum. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 08-13-2020 (08-10-2020, 10:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: As I understand, it's the one year anniversary of Epstein not killing himself. Despite the release of Maxwell's documents, the media still tries to mute the fact that the lists of participants are absolutely laden with popular figures who align with the politics of the Left, some even Democrat political icons. What should the proportions be for an epidemic or a pandemic? RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - BengalHawk62 - 08-20-2020 https://who13.com/news/coronavirus/iowa-impacts/dr-pedati-discusses-iowas-coronavirus-test-reporting-glitch-and-other-data-discrepancies/ RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - NATI BENGALS - 08-20-2020 Pretty obvious answer to this. I trust the my pillow guy. He has a cure and Trump is trying to help him get it out there but the lame stream fake news is stopping him. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - Belsnickel - 08-20-2020 I thought things were rough with the mask wearing in my town. I'm currently in SW PA and I am not at all surprised that they are seeing more cases than my city and county in Virginia. This is just ridiculous. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - GMDino - 08-21-2020 (08-20-2020, 07:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I thought things were rough with the mask wearing in my town. I'm currently in SW PA and I am not at all surprised that they are seeing more cases than my city and county in Virginia. This is just ridiculous. It varies from place to place. What used to be a strong Democratic stronghold is now largely Trumpville. I blame the smart people who moved away in the 80's and 90's and never came back and were replaced with people who don't believe in education or science. We have become more redneck in the last 20 years then I want to imagine. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - Belsnickel - 08-21-2020 (08-21-2020, 10:12 AM)GMDino Wrote: It varies from place to place. What used to be a strong Democratic stronghold is now largely Trumpville. I blame the smart people who moved away in the 80's and 90's and never came back and were replaced with people who don't believe in education or science. We have become more redneck in the last 20 years then I want to imagine. Yeah, I'm noticing that. My uncle's place is just on the Fayette side of the line in Bullskin Township, I'm staying at the Holiday Inn Express between Scottdale and Mount Pleasant, and I just got back to the hotel after driving through Connellsville and Uniontown to take care of some things. What used to be a union stronghold is entirely Trump territory and I have seen several anti-masking signs mixed in with the Trump stuff. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - GMDino - 08-21-2020 (08-21-2020, 01:03 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, I'm noticing that. My uncle's place is just on the Fayette side of the line in Bullskin Township, I'm staying at the Holiday Inn Express between Scottdale and Mount Pleasant, and I just got back to the hotel after driving through Connellsville and Uniontown to take care of some things. What used to be a union stronghold is entirely Trump territory and I have seen several anti-masking signs mixed in with the Trump stuff. I can only tell you there is a strong Biden contingent in the area also. Fewer signs but but activism. In fact my hometown has two giant Biden banners within two block of each other. (Westmoreland side of the border.) Hope you at least get some fishing in while you're here! RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - Belsnickel - 08-21-2020 (08-21-2020, 01:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: I can only tell you there is a strong Biden contingent in the area also. Fewer signs but but activism. Not one bit. I even left my rod at home. Lots to do when trying to secure a relative's house and take care of the estate. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - GMDino - 08-21-2020 (08-21-2020, 04:34 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Not one bit. I even left my rod at home. Lots to do when trying to secure a relative's house and take care of the estate. Oh no. Sorry for your loss. RE: Coronavirus Information...who do you trust? - BmorePat87 - 08-22-2020 https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/513252-mcconnell-rips-piecemeal-postal-bill-democrats-for-ignoring-urgent-needs-of McConnell, the man who let the House's Covid relief bill sit for 2.5 months without touching it, accused Democrats of ignoring the needs of American workers and families for passing legislation that only relates to the Post Office |