(12-08-2020, 08:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oof.  Keep an eye on that for sure.  The virus apparently can hit other things differently.

I had to do a tele visit and while I was talking tot hem I had them send paperwork for my bloodwork.  Hopefully it all checks out.

I did test positive, as did my wife.

I've been quarantining since last Monday (except for when I went for the test).

Worst of it was a stuffy nose, some drainage and a little annoying cough that gave me a sore throat.  The vast majority of that is gone now.  I did lose my sense of smell for about four days.

Everyone exposed to the first person tested positive even if they didn't show symptoms EXCEPT his wife who also showed no symptoms.  

Anyway...off work until Monday and all Christmas plans are cancelled but if this is all we have to deal with I'll take it as a win.

(12-09-2020, 10:27 AM)michaelsean Wrote: You were fortunate like me with the taste and smell thing being so short.

I pointed the kidney thing out to my Dr and she's like "Drink more water."  I don't think the numbers even registered because I'm sure they are used to dealing with people with far worse numbers, but I pointed out the differences from six months ago so she switched it to "Drink more water and we will check again in six months."  (Which I get a blood test every six months anyway. )  I'm pretty sure they hate that we get our test results before our appointment.

We are probably going to be on our own this year for Christmas.  I'm looking forward to making a fancy Christmas or Christmas Eve dinner on a really nicely decorated table.  Something you don't get when there are twenty+ people.

(12-09-2020, 12:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: I'm glad you shared that.  I only did some reading and saw how others had the longer term effects with different things.  I'll now know to compare my numbers.  Our doctor recently switched insurances (was better for us) so I can't access my old number on line yet and will need to let her know.

Christmas is going to be really weird.  Don't know what we plan on doing yet other than we will NOT be going to my parents for the first time ever and we might see my mother in law in shifts for a few minutes.  I suggested a porch drop off for gifts on my side of the family and they want to wait until we can actually get together...hopefully in the spring.

I'm one of those lucky ones that never got to host a big holiday dinner.  That's why I have a big Christmas party for the family and neighborhood every year (not this year).  So I'm gonna have to figure out what to do with Christmas.  Just me, my wife and son unless we let our daughter and her husband in!  

(12-09-2020, 12:17 PM)Au165 Wrote: I was thinking of going to my parent's house when they weren't home (but they know about it) and setting up a webcam and hook it to their big screen in their living room and then setting up a similar setup at our house. It's a little better than facetime just because it gives you a better view of the room and the size makes it a little more "normal". Our kid is still really young so I know they want to see him open his presents and feel like they are there. 

(12-16-2020, 02:35 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408?fbclid=IwAR3BkTS3PeuMhosiGqfVl-QugrivaKDyLtSYvsMBsC4mleKR9euArR8lBpo

Newly revealed emails show that Paul Alexander, a former advisor installed in HHS by a deputy secretary, pushed for millions of Americans to get infected to create herd immunity. This included keeping schools open to spread the virus.

Alexander and his boss Michael Caputo had spent months pressuring career scientists in the department and related agencies to adopt point of views supported by the administration and worked to silence those with differing views. Alexander sought to pressure Fauci into not publicly supporting masks or testing for school children, and was caught trying to manipulate data. He left his post days after Politico broke the story about his attempts to control mortality reports.

The former chief of staff for the CDC said that it was assumed by staff that Alexander spoke for Caputo who spoke for the White House.

Quote:Officials in multiple states said they were alerted late Wednesday that their second shipments of Pfizer-BioNTech’s vaccine had been drastically cut for next week, sparking widespread confusion and conflicting statements from Pfizer and federal officials about who was at fault.

The reduction prompted concern in health departments across the country about whether Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration’s vaccine accelerator program, could distribute doses quickly enough to meet the target of delivering first shots to 20 million people by year’s end.

A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal plans, said the revised estimates were the result of states’ requesting an expedited timeline for locking in their allocations for the following week; notification of how many doses they could order each week was consequently advanced from Friday to Tuesday. Since Pfizer is producing doses daily, the official said, fewer doses were available Tuesday than will be available on Friday.

But Pfizer released a statement Thursday that seemed to contradict that explanation, saying the company faced no production difficulties and had many more doses immediately available than were being distributed.

“We have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse but, as of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses,” the statement read.

The clashing accounts came as Pfizer and the Trump administration negotiate over additional vaccine doses for the United States. Pfizer, which has already committed to providing the government 100 million doses, said that as recently as October, federal officials had turned down its entreaties to lock in another 100 million doses. When those officials sought to buy those doses later, the company said its supplies were already committed to other countries. Now the pharmaceutical giant and the administration are nearing an agreement that would provide the United States with more than 50 million doses, but fewer than 100 million, probably spread over the second and third quarters of 2021, according to people knowledgeable about the negotiations who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

(12-16-2020, 02:35 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408?fbclid=IwAR3BkTS3PeuMhosiGqfVl-QugrivaKDyLtSYvsMBsC4mleKR9euArR8lBpo

Newly revealed emails show that Paul Alexander, a former advisor installed in HHS by a deputy secretary, pushed for millions of Americans to get infected to create herd immunity. This included keeping schools open to spread the virus.

Alexander and his boss Michael Caputo had spent months pressuring career scientists in the department and related agencies to adopt point of views supported by the administration and worked to silence those with differing views. Alexander sought to pressure Fauci into not publicly supporting masks or testing for school children, and was caught trying to manipulate data. He left his post days after Politico broke the story about his attempts to control mortality reports.

The former chief of staff for the CDC said that it was assumed by staff that Alexander spoke for Caputo who spoke for the White House.

(12-22-2020, 10:47 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Republicans repeatedly refused to say what amount the President wanted for direct checks. At last, the President has agreed to $2,000 — Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it! https://t.co/Th4sztrpLV

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) December 23, 2020

 

(12-23-2020, 12:43 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: They ignored the House bill for 4 months, fought against larger stimulus checks, and now Trump agrees...

(12-23-2020, 12:09 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Anti-vaxxers have fallen so far down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole they have invented vaccines pic.twitter.com/XNdULEtFID

— The Hardy Report (@EdwardTHardy) December 23, 2020

Quote:Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) went down in flames Tuesday after claiming that the Founding Fathers wouldn't have approved restrictions, lockdowns and mask orders to protect against the COVID-19 crisis. Historians had another take.


Tweeting their responses, historians recalled the Smallpox outbreak that prompted the exact same precautions taken the year of America's birth.

Many have asked how this was possible if vaccination was not discovered until 1796. That's true, but this is inoculation or variolation introduced by Cotton Mather's African slave Onesimus and first applied broadly in Boston in 1721. It was eventually replaced by vaccination.

— Andrew Wehrman (@ProfWehrman) December 29, 2020

 

4/ Fourth:

"The Founders" would understand -- profoundly -- the risk inherent in epidemics.

The didn't fully understand the cause or cure of curses like cholera and yellow fever, but they understood the need for group action of some kind to fight it.

— Dr. Joanne Freeman (@jbf1755) December 29, 2020

 

There was a massive smallpox epidemic during the American Revolution.

George Washington quarantined the infected, refused to let people from hot spots travel to his army, and even sent a thousand soldiers to Boston to prevent the spread there. https://t.co/WueBNEnnj6

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 29, 2020

 





Jordan, who earned his master's degree in education at Ohio State University appears to have ignored the education he could have garnered by googling "pandemics" during the early years of the United States.
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