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RE: 2020 Election - Belsnickel - 07-23-2020
RE: 2020 Election - BigPapaKain - 07-23-2020 (07-23-2020, 09:34 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm not sure if annoying people who don't support you is a valid way to get them to support you, but at this point I'm sure that whole campaign is about throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks. RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-23-2020 So what is the difference between a person, a woman and a man? Asking for a president. RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-24-2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/upshot/biden-polls-demographics.html Quote:White Flight From Trump? What a Decisive Biden Win Would Look Like RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-25-2020
RE: 2020 Election - bfine32 - 07-26-2020 https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-campaign-suppressing-hispanic-vote-180950158.html Quote:Over 90 field organizers for the Florida Democratic Party signed a scathing letter Friday to the party’s leadership, claiming among other things that the campaign is “suppressing the Hispanic vote” in Central Florida. RE: 2020 Election - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2020 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/06/lincoln-project-ads-republicans-democrats-349184 I can't remember if I posted this, but I thought of this article while looking at a tweet from the Lincoln Project mocking Trump's tweet about being too busy for baseball that he sent while he was golfing. From the article: Down to the smallest detail, it’s a masterful nugget of compact filmmaking. And it helped draw attention to a renegade corps of Republican strategists, veterans of campaigns for George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney, who are applying their attack-ad skills to their own party’s president—and going for the kill shot, every time. Still, the Lincoln Project is clearly getting under the skin of the president and his supporters. And the evidence is not just raging tweets; in one of those Washington funhouse mirror moments, the Trump-friendly super PAC Club for Growth just released an ad attacking the Lincoln Project founders as if they were candidates themselves. Part of it is skill: The Lincoln Project ads are slick, quick and filled with damning quotes and unflattering photos. But part of it might just be that Republicans are better at this than Democrats. Trump may sense that these ads are especially dangerous because they pack an emotional punch, using imagery designed to provoke anxiety, anger and fear—aimed at the very voters who were driven to him by those same feelings in 2016. And history, even science, suggests that might in fact be the case—that Republicans have a knack for scaring the hell out of people, and that makes for some potent ads. Stoking fear is a tried-and-true tactic of political advertising, stemming back to the Lyndon Johnson campaign’s 1964 anti-Barry Goldwater ad “Daisy.” But many of the most indelible ones have stemmed from the Republican camp, and over time, they’ve grown increasingly blunt. Ronald Reagan’s 1984 “Bear” ad used a grizzly as metaphor for the Soviet nuclear threat: “Isn't it smart to be as strong as the bear—if there is a bear?” the voice over intoned. That ad inspired George W. Bush’s “Wolves” from 2004, which accused John Kerry of being soft on terrorism. George H.W. Bush’s infamous 1988 Willie Horton ad linked Michael Dukakis to a prisoner who committed brutal crimes on a weekend pass, flashing the words “Kidnapping,” “Stabbing” and “Raping” on the screen. (The ad has since been scorned, not just for exploiting racial stereotypes, but also for paving the way for tough-on-crime bills that had lasting social repercussions.) The secret of fearmongering is a willingness to go there, and that’s where the Republicans of the Lincoln Project might have an advantage over Trump’s left-leaning opponents. The group’s founders aren’t calibrating their ads around a Democratic base that mistrusts the military, delves into nuance or shies away from causing offense. That leaves ample room for dog-whistle symbols that range from clichés to horror-movie tropes: One ad accuses Trump of being played by China and ends with the image of the White House, the entire screen tinted red. Research shows there’s a reason these ads could be effective with Republicans voters: Conservatives are an especially fear-prone group. In a 2008 paper in the journal Science, researchers subjected a group of adults with strong political beliefs to a set of startling noises and graphic images. Those with the strongest physical reactions were more likely to support capital punishment, defense spending and the war in Iraq. A 2011 paper in the journal Cell found a correlation between conservative leanings and the size of the right amygdala, the portion of the brain that processes emotions in response to fearful stimuli. In her book Irony and Outrage, University of Delaware professor Dannagal Young points out that liberals and conservatives respond differently to entertainment rhetoric: Liberals have a higher tolerance for open-ended ambiguity, while conservatives look for closure and want problems to be solved. That research helps explain why some attack ads move the needle with the right populations—and why some, in retrospect, don’t. Take the Hillary Clinton campaign ad, “Mirrors,” which aired about a month before the 2016 election. Hailed, in certain circles, as an instant classic, it showed a series of young girls looking at their own reflections as Trump’s voice played in the background, saying things like, “I’d look her right in that fat ugly face of hers.” Mother Jones deemed the ad “powerful”; Bustle called it “brilliant.” But it didn’t convert the white suburban women Clinton’s advisers surely hoped to reach, because it not only preached to the choir, but spoke in the language of the choir. It was too subtle, Young might say, asking viewers to connect the dots, rather than hammering in a dramatic point. And it played to voters’ conscience and values—the kinds of things voters have to think about—rather than their raw emotions. Trump’s ads, by comparison, have required little thought; the dots are preconnected in thick Sharpie ink. His first 2016 ad, “Great Again,” touted his willingness to utter the words “RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM,” which the ad displayed in all caps over images of masked fighters and photos of the San Bernardino shooters. (The same ad pledged that Trump would “cut the head off ISIS.”) His campaign’s fear-stoking 2018 anti-immigration ad, featuring an illegal immigrant convicted of murder and caravan footage that evoked an invasion, was so incendiary that many networks, including Fox News, refused to run it. The Lincoln Project, too, knows how to deliver an unsubtle message, and Trump has given it some useful raw material. Recent news footage makes him look weak and despondent—as when he descended from a helicopter after his Tulsa rally, a MAGA hat drooping from his hand like a dead trout. (The Lincoln Project’s ad sets the scene to “Jurassic Park” theme music, played badly on melodica.) The image of Trump holding up a Bible in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church, intended as a metaphor of strength, now plays as shorthand for tone-deaf insincerity. But the genius of the Lincoln Project ads is that they’re quite specifically after Trump, using his own favored tools of shamelessness and fearmongering, and turning them back on their source. Who knows? It could actually work. RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 A post in the meme thread reminded me of this older article about Biden and his gaffes. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gaffes-quotes-2020-election-1323905 You can read all the times he said something stupid there (up until then) but his reflection on it was stuck with me and how Trump characterizes it too. Quote:Joe Biden admits it: "I am a gaffe machine," he said in December 2018. He turned his confession into a dig at Donald Trump—"But my God, what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can't tell the truth"—but now the former vice president has entered the 2020 presidential race, he might regret some of his stumbles. There is your choice. The guy who knows he makes mistakes and is willing to admit it and tells you the truth versus the egomaniac who can't even admit he makes mistakes all while lying all day, every day to you. RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 After a quick search I can NOT verify this but it sounds about right.
RE: 2020 Election - Nately120 - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 10:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: After a quick search I can NOT verify this but it sounds about right. I'm sure the Trump supporters will all boo the hell out of those performers and entertainers who dare to speak their political opinion before their reality TV president arrives. RE: 2020 Election - BmorePat87 - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 10:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: After a quick search I can NOT verify this but it sounds about right. — The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 27, 2020 the Lincoln Project can meme RE: 2020 Election - Nately120 - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 12:35 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: the Lincoln Project can meme What is to meme? We have a proud draft-dodger and Charles who was "in charge" some 30+ years ago setting the stage for our blemish-free leader. Man, if anyone dared think a Trump presidency would be absurd, I say I'm waiting for him to tag in the Hulkster. RE: 2020 Election - BmorePat87 - 07-27-2020 The actress who voiced Dora endorsed this Lincoln Project "ad"
RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 Ooof.
RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 Just for reference about the polls above and because Bob Dole's campaign site is still online (until it crashed from everyone going there.)
RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 Trump is going with "America: Love it or Leave It" apparently. Also the stock market is up so everything is ok. The page says this was two hours ago...not sure if that's when it was or not. RE: 2020 Election - jason - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 04:54 PM)GMDino Wrote: Trump is going with "America: Love it or Leave It" apparently. That's old. RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 07:16 PM)jason Wrote: That's old. I thought it was but it was showing as "live" on July 27th and the time stamp was even right. Oh well. RE: 2020 Election - SunsetBengal - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 08:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: I thought it was but it was showing as "live" on July 27th and the time stamp was even right. Oh well. Of what year? Where's the link? RE: 2020 Election - GMDino - 07-27-2020 (07-27-2020, 08:41 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Of what year? Where's the link? https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=3100930809984904&ref=external I embedded it so anyone could click on the title and see the FB page. It was shared by a friend and the time was correct so either it was a coincidence or the page did it on purpose. |