Quote:the streaming giant is currently experiencing serious online backlash for providing a platform for the controversial French film, Cuties, about an 11-year-old Senegalese girl living in Paris who joins an all-girl dance group. Last month, Netflix apologized after a poster promoting the movie was accused of sexualizing its young cast. Since Cuties premiered on Wednesday, a #CancelNetflix campaign has been trending on Twitter, with some equating the coming of age film to pedophilia.

(09-10-2020, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are creeps still allowed to watch Toddlers and Tiaras? Asking for a creepy friend.

(09-10-2020, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are creeps still allowed to watch Toddlers and Tiaras?  Asking for a creepy friend.

(09-10-2020, 09:56 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Curious what my Potty Mouth Princesses fans think of this one.

(09-10-2020, 11:06 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Curious what cursing has to do with being sexualized

Is that what turns you on?

BTW are you going to call everyone who disagrees with you pedophiles again?

(09-10-2020, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are creeps still allowed to watch Toddlers and Tiaras?  Asking for a creepy friend.

(09-11-2020, 02:17 AM)Benton Wrote: Coincidentally, my daughter played soccer with a girl on the show. We stopped associating with them when we found out the dad kept asking kids over for sleep overs (not parents, kids). But I guess that's patents. Trump goes backstage to watch teens dress, he's a champion of virtue; netflix launches a show that may (I honestly don't know anything about it) promote concern preteens being sexualized and somehow, Biden did it (according to my social media, not the op).

As to the op, I don't know anything about the show. I guess, in a nutshell, if it promotes pedophilia I'm against it. But there is a difference in discussing it (if it does) and promoting it.

Unfortunately, the worthwhile cause (ending pedophilia) has largely been derailed as a campaign issue. 

(09-11-2020, 11:04 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I remember a similar stink over the move "Kids", which came out in the mid to late nineties.  It basically followed varying groups of teenagers meandering around NYC with zero parental supervision having sex, getting STD's, doing drugs and drinking.  I kind of got the uproar but when you watch the movie it certainly wasn't promoting any of that and was basically shining a light on these kids who live their lives with no supervision.  So the message of the movie was not a positive one and certainly didn't promote the behavior.

(09-11-2020, 11:07 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Did the movie make it out to be that what these "kids" were doing was bad? Otherwise, wouldn't it still be promoting the behavior?

(09-11-2020, 02:17 AM)Benton Wrote: Coincidentally, my daughter played soccer with a girl on the show. We stopped associating with them when we found out the dad kept asking kids over for sleep overs (not parents, kids). But I guess that's patents. Trump goes backstage to watch teens dress, he's a champion of virtue; netflix launches a show that may (I honestly don't know anything about it) promote concern preteens being sexualized and somehow, Biden did it (according to my social media, not the op).

As to the op, I don't know anything about the show. I guess, in a nutshell, if it promotes pedophilia I'm against it. But there is a difference in discussing it (if it does) and promoting it.

Unfortunately, the worthwhile cause (ending pedophilia) has largely been derailed as a campaign issue. 

(09-11-2020, 01:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: So, real quick, are we debating something that no one here has even seen but is willing to pass judgement on because of what they read about it?

(09-11-2020, 01:34 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Don't we do that any way with pretty much everything? 

How many of us live in Portland and see the riots and protests up close and personal? Certainly not everyone who's commented on it one way or the other.

(09-10-2020, 10:36 PM)jason Wrote: Oh good... We're polling for our friends again. My friend says it ok to watch shows like that, but only if you're doing research like Pete Townsend was back in the day. How'd ol Pete get away with that anyway?

(09-11-2020, 02:17 AM)Benton Wrote: Coincidentally, my daughter played soccer with a girl on the show. We stopped associating with them when we found out the dad kept asking kids over for sleep overs (not parents, kids). But I guess that's patents. Trump goes backstage to watch teens dress, he's a champion of virtue; netflix launches a show that may (I honestly don't know anything about it) promote concern preteens being sexualized and somehow, Biden did it (according to my social media, not the op).

As to the op, I don't know anything about the show. I guess, in a nutshell, if it promotes pedophilia I'm against it. But there is a difference in discussing it (if it does) and promoting it.

Unfortunately, the worthwhile cause (ending pedophilia) has largely been derailed as a campaign issue. 

(09-11-2020, 01:24 PM)Dill Wrote: I haven't seen it yet, but judging from this review--
https://www.vulture.com/article/movie-review-netflixs-cuties-a-moving-coming-of-age-drama.html
the directing award at Sundance is no surprise.

If the review is accurate, then the film critiques role model choices offered young girls today, especially in the first world. It's the opposite of promoting pedophilia, but the dance scene gone viral will certainly meet pedophile approval.

There is a specific cultural context too as the Somalian girl is a Muslim immigrant living in Paris, where her poor mother is tasked with preparing a room for her husband's second wife. The other girls are also immigrants from different cultures. As the director is a Somalian immigrant as well, it promises a glimpse of the world through Somalian immigrant eyes.

Like I say, haven't seen it, but everything I have read promises depth and a serious film.  The dance images though will be separated out from the film by pedophiles and anti-porno groups. to promote condemnation and boycotts.

(09-11-2020, 01:40 PM)GMDino Wrote: I didn't mean that to come off as insulting I was just reading through and didn't think anyone had actually seen it. Wasn't sure why it came up for discussion on the PNR section as it doesn't apply to politics or religion. Maybe it does and I'm missing it.

(09-11-2020, 01:41 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Not because he's my musical idol, but the facts with Pete are that he had used a Credit Card to register with a site, that was affiliated with... that form of pornography or something like that; his history was gone through, hard drives, data devices, etc., etc., not a smidgen of content was found anywhere and he never actually went on anything related to... that form of pornography.

I don't necessarily buy his, "research," claim, but the hard data shows he never obtained or viewed anything at any time.


Not a show, a film.


I haven't seen it either, but I saw the trailer yesterday and what is in the trailer, as mentioned above, doesn't look any different from those TLC shows or what you see in a schoolyard at recess (my wife mentions often, how ridiculously *10* year olds dress nowadays and she's only 27, so it's not like she's a curmudgeon or anything).

I also think someone with an agenda wrote the imdb parents guide, as it constantly states that, "Twerking," occurs throughout the film. That single word set a ton of people off.

My POV on these things are that art is art and it is subjective to everyone; get the context and meaning behind it before condemning it (unless it's a snuff film set out to do just that, like that Norwegian film from a few years back; that has no artistic value, IMO) and if the film is blatantly sexualizing children and promoting it, then go ahead and tear it down.

But if it is a deconstruction on what children values are shown as in today's world and it is a critique on liberal Western Culture, as opposed to conservative Muslim Culture, then that is what the film should have its merits based upon.

Either way, I don't (and never will) have Netflix, so I'll never know.


100% does (just see the YT comments on the trailer, for how people are turning this political). I actually came into PnR last night to see if anyone had started a thread on it and no one had yet.

(I saw, #cancelnetflix trending on Twitter and was SUPER excited, because I hate every shred of that organization's existence and how they've destroyed physical media)