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Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/10/10/biden-says-voters-dont-deserve-to-know-stance-on-court-packing/#1e72032d7aac Quote:“Well sir, don’t the voters deserve to know-” DiMattei began to ask, as Biden interjected “no they don’t deserve,” before asserting “I’m not gonna play [Trump’s] game… he’d love that to be the discussion instead of what he’s doing now.” The idiot doesn't realize that by NOT answering it, he's making that the very discussion he's trying to avoid having it. I don't really understand why he doesn't just answer "No". It's not like it's going to cost him a lot of votes since most of the people voting for him don't care about his positions. All they care about is that he's not Donald Trump. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 Also, this "genius" thinks Trump nominating Amy Coney Barret is "unconstitutional". https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-amy-coney-barrett-appointment-not-constitutional-he-evades-court-packing-question-1538111 Is Biden trying to sabotage his own campaign or something? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - GMDino - 10-13-2020 One thing Biden has done exceedingly well is not letting Trump and his minions control the narrative. Trump has been unable to get his usual misdirection to stick and Biden knows it. Answering the question would just lead to more/different questions. He allows Trump and his supporters to yell at clouds while continues to campaign on his plans that are out there. It's a very good strategy. And it is working. But then Trump is also still talking about Hillary's emails so I'm not sure what his actual strategy is. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Benton - 10-13-2020 Soooo... is this Trump's new strategy? No healthcare plan, no jobs plan, no real tax reform... just drive home that he has to stay in office to pack the SCOTUS, even though there's been a majority of Republican appointed justices multiple times in the last 50 years? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 09:49 AM)GMDino Wrote: One thing Biden has done exceedingly well is not letting Trump and his minions control the narrative. While I agree that Biden's best strategy is to keep the focus on Trump (which also goes to show how shitty a candidate Biden is), I still think it's backfiring on him cause we ARE talking about his non-answer on court packing. (10-13-2020, 10:01 AM)Benton Wrote: Soooo... is this Trump's new strategy? No healthcare plan, no jobs plan, no real tax reform... just drive home that he has to stay in office to pack the SCOTUS, even though there's been a majority of Republican appointed justices multiple times in the last 50 years? If Trump refuses to run on his record, then he's got no choice than to attack Biden any which way he can. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Mickeypoo - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 10:01 AM)Benton Wrote: Soooo... is this Trump's new strategy? No healthcare plan, no jobs plan, no real tax reform... just drive home that he has to stay in office to pack the SCOTUS, even though there's been a majority of Republican appointed justices multiple times in the last 50 years? I didn't realize the senate had expanded the SCOTUS to more than 9 Justices. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-on-56-of-americans-saying-theyre-better-off-now-than-4-years-ago-they-probably-shouldnt-vote-for-me Quote:Biden On 56% Of Americans Saying They’re Better Off Now Than 4 Years Ago: They ‘Probably Shouldn’t’ Vote For Me Does Biden NOT want to win the election? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Benton - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 11:54 AM)PhilHos Wrote: If Trump refuses to run on his record, then he's got no choice than to attack Biden any which way he can. Fair point. I wouldn't want to run on that record either. I hear if he wins, it's only going to take him 4.5 years before he unveils his healthcare plan. (10-13-2020, 11:55 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: I didn't realize the senate had expanded the SCOTUS to more than 9 Justices. Uhhh... they haven't. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Mickeypoo - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 02:00 PM)Benton Wrote: Fair point. I wouldn't want to run on that record either. Are you meaning pack by filling vacant seats? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 02:04 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Are you meaning pack by filling vacant seats? I won't speak for Benton but it's clear Democrats are trying to change the meaning of "packing" the courts. It's sad. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Benton - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 02:04 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Are you meaning pack by filling vacant seats? That's what I've taken it to mean. (10-13-2020, 02:09 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I won't speak for Benton but it's clear Democrats are trying to change the meaning of "packing" the courts. It's sad. There's another meaning? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 02:38 PM)Benton Wrote: That's what I've taken it to mean. Seriously? For the last hundred years or so, packing the court has meant to add seats to the Supreme Court. STACKING the court has meant filling vacant seats with partisan judges. The term "court packing" stems from FDR's attempt to increase the number of justices on the SCOTUS to 15 in 1937. It's what it's always meant. Well, til recently when it actually hurts the Democrats and Biden to be in favor of it. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Benton - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 03:01 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Seriously? For the last hundred years or so, packing the court has meant to add seats to the Supreme Court. STACKING the court has meant filling vacant seats with partisan judges. Well, I'm only 40 so... RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - CJD - 10-13-2020 I would prefer Biden say what everyone already knows. "The only reason that packing the court is even on the table of discussion right now is because of the unethical and hypocritical behavior of the Republican party and their attempts to forego decency and the will of the people to obtain and maintain as much power for themselves as they possibly can. I can't tell you whether I am for packing the courts or not because I honestly can't tell you how far they are willing to go to yank the power out of the people's hands and put it into their own and that of their donors and masters. If they cease their behavior, then I will have no reason to pack the courts because they will have been appointed in a just and fair manner for the people of this country. Right now, 74% of people want this appointment to be delayed until after the election chooses its next president and I think if the Republicans truly cared about the will of the people, they'd halt their preposterous behavior and instead focus on helping the people, who are struggling right now, with a well overdue stimulus package that the Democrats have been trying to get them to work on for months now." It would have been a complete answer without condemning or endorsing the idea of packing the courts while simultaneously refocusing on what the actual problem is with the courts, which is the Republicans' naked power grab between their hypocritical behavior in 2016 vs 2020 and how you can't trust the words that come out of their mouth in any way. They are not genuine actors and therefore are not fit to lead anyone. Unfortunately, Biden is absolutely awful with words. When cornered, he reverts to short, often insulting, phrases and "Come on man"s and "here's the deal, folks"s. It's exhausting knowing that he's the country's best option as president for the next 4 years. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - PhilHos - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 03:06 PM)Benton Wrote: Well, I'm only 40 so... Touche. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - bfine32 - 10-13-2020 This is silly and it's fun to watch each side point to how silly the other side is. During Garland I said he should be vetted. Dems (to include Obama and VP Biden) agreed/ GOP (including candidate Trump)did not During ACB I say she should be vetted. GOP (including Trump) agrees/ Dems (including Biden) do not The Dems and GOp both have a history of changing the "rules" depending on who's in charge. I don't agree with the ambiguity, but don't point finger at each other and say you're wrong. Look in the mirror RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - Benton - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 04:00 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Touche. Seriously, though, I thought the term was interchangeable. My mistake. To be honest, I've never paid a ton of attention to concerns of a partisan court. I read somewhere years ago that no matter who nominated them, most justices tend to be mostly nonpartisan. Of course, we're entering different times where everyone is accused of falling on one of two sides with no wiggle room. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - bfine32 - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 03:25 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I would prefer Biden say what everyone already knows. So the 2016 election term ends in 2019? RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - CJD - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 04:25 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So the 2016 election term ends in 2019? Nope. RE: Voters don't deserve an answer - GMDino - 10-13-2020 (10-13-2020, 04:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is silly and it's fun to watch each side point to how silly the other side is. The issue being this time is that the GOP was/is in charge both times and still changed the rules. Meanwhile the Democrats have said they want them simply do what they did last time even thought the Democrats opposed it. |