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Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Wes Mantooth - 11-30-2020

For those that don't know, the Broncos 3 QB's were all put on the Covid list this week, and they were forced to play a WR at QB. (Kendall Hilton)

Fwiw, the WR, Hilton, actually played some backup QB in college at Wake Forrest before converting to a WR. His last college start was in 2017, and he only started 1 game that year. In 2018 he converted to WR.

Kendall Hilton has spent zero time in the QB room this year, zero time throwing to receivers, and zero time learning the playbook from that perspective. He was thrown to the wolves about 24-48 hours before kickoff when the Broncos were forced to make a decision.

Here's how our offense compared to their offense (with a WR playing QB)...

Bengals - 155 yards of total offense against the #9 best defense in yards per game.

Broncos - 112 yards of total offense against the #1 best defense in yards per game.

Not to far off in total yardage, and they played the #1 D in the league. Does anyone else find this incredibly concerning?

Zac Taylor is supposed to be an offensive genius, and QB guru. Yet he's getting similar production out of actual NFL QB's as another team who was forced to name a WR their starting QB 24 hours before kickoff.

What exactly has Taylor been working on all year? What exactly was he working on this week, in drawing up a gameplan for Allen?

Zac Taylor is an absolute clown of a coach. How much proof do some of you need?


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - impactplaya - 11-30-2020

Zac isnt a offensive guru. Thats like saying Stephen Hawking
Was a world class gymnist.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Tony - 11-30-2020

Not really.... It's expected at this point... Zack isn't gonna miraculously turn it around and be Belicheck JR all of the sudden. He's toxic and garbage. He needs to go asap before the team misses its window with Burrow. 1 more year of this type of destruction could ruin them for 3-5 years.. He really needs to go by the end of the year, and some kind of coach with a Winning resume somewhere needs to be brought in... No more project coaches..


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - jj22 - 11-30-2020

Nothing in past said he was an Offensive guru.

QB guru tho yes. Supposedly so.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - ochocincos - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 04:51 PM)jj22 Wrote: Nothing in past said he was an Offensive guru.

QB guru tho yes. Supposedly so.

Does make you wonder if he's really a QB guru if the only QBs who play even decently are those drafted in the 1st round.
I would expect a "guru" can turn water into wine, so to speak.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Big Boss - 11-30-2020

Sack Taylor.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Rubekahn29 - 11-30-2020

Sack Taylor is no QB guru, and is no Offensive guru.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Wes Mantooth - 11-30-2020

Just to be clear, I'm not saying he's an offensive guru, or a QB guru. I'm using this thread to point out that he's furthest thing from either. But this is what we were sold when he was hired.

If the guy is a guru at anything it's losing NFL games. He's one of the best of all time in that department.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - jj22 - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 04:54 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Does make you wonder if he's really a QB guru if the only QBs who play even decently are those drafted in the 1st round.
I would expect a "guru" can turn water into wine, so to speak.

True.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - ochocincos - 11-30-2020

If your offense comes to a screeching halt because of just the QB being out, it tells me that that particular player is the key to making the whole thing work.

And if you depend that heavily on a single player, you need to do everything in your power to keep that player healthy and productive. Which means better protection and receivers who can get better separation. The former is a bigger priority though, as we've seen that the receivers can eventually separate if Burrow can extend the play by scrambling.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - Benton - 11-30-2020

Sounds like when we brought marvin in and expected solid play from linebackers, since that had been his area before baltimore, which had outstanding lbs when he was there.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - bengalfan74 - 11-30-2020

Zac Taylor is a joke of an NFL HC. That's all there is to it.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - bengaloo - 11-30-2020

Taylor's offense was Joe Burrow. I dont expect the O to do much the rest of the year.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - MickMack - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 05:16 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Just to be clear, I'm not saying he's an offensive guru, or a QB guru.  I'm using this thread to point out that he's furthest thing from either.  But this is what we were sold when he was hired.

If the guy is a guru at anything it's losing NFL games.  He's one of the best of all time in that department.

That may have been what people were being sold, but I have no sympathy for anyone who was buying it.  Not only did he lack anything that indicated he was an offensive guru, his most prominent accomplishment showed that he likely was not. 


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - SunsetBengal - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 07:46 PM)MickMack Wrote: That may have been what people were being sold, but I have no sympathy for anyone who was buying it.  Not only did he lack anything that indicated he was an offensive guru, his most prominent accomplishment showed that he likely was not. 

If Zac was Katie's first hire as "controlling voice", she's got nowhere to go but up from here..

How many shitty hires did Mike have, before lucking into Marvin?  Hope that her learning curve is better than her old man's.  Mellow


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - MickMack - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 08:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Zac was Katie's first hire as "controlling voice", she's got nowhere to go but up from here..

How many shitty hires did Mike have, before lucking into Marvin?  Hope that her learning curve is better than her old man's.  Mellow

If it's like father, like daughter we're in for a looooong road.  For the record I'm pretty sure it is.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - SunsetBengal - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 08:45 PM)MickMack Wrote: If it's like father, like daughter we're in for a looooong road.  For the record I'm pretty sure it is.

According to Science, sometimes genetics skips a generation.  Let's just hope that is the case here.


RE: Bengals Offense vs. Broncos Offense - thompson19osu - 11-30-2020

(11-30-2020, 04:15 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: For those that don't know, the Broncos 3 QB's were all put on the Covid list this week, and they were forced to play a WR at QB. (Kendall Hilton)

Fwiw, the WR, Hilton, actually played some backup QB in college at Wake Forrest before converting to a WR. His last college start was in 2017, and he only started 1 game that year. In 2018 he converted to WR.

Kendall Hilton has spent zero time in the QB room this year, zero time throwing to receivers, and zero time learning the playbook from that perspective. He was thrown to the wolves about 24-48 hours before kickoff when the Broncos were forced to make a decision.

Here's how our offense compared to their offense (with a WR playing QB)...

Bengals - 155 yards of total offense against the #9 best defense in yards per game.

Broncos - 112 yards of total offense against the #1 best defense in yards per game.

Not to far off in total yardage, and they played the #1 D in the league. Does anyone else find this incredibly concerning?

Zac Taylor is supposed to be an offensive genius, and QB guru. Yet he's getting similar production out of actual NFL QB's as another team who was forced to name a WR their starting QB 24 hours before kickoff.

What exactly has Taylor been working on all year? What exactly was he working on this week, in drawing up a gameplan for Allen?

Zac Taylor is an absolute clown of a coach. How much proof do some of you need?

Burrow’s injury is showing just how inept Taylor is.