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Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
Will they?
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Bengals can take advantage of some Cap accouting rules and create a little more Cap Room in 2021 by extending some players this week. For any extension reached prior to the end of the regular season, any signing bonus will be prorated starting with the current 2020 Cap year.
— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) December 31, 2020
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - ochocincos - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 11:39 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Will they?
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Bengals can take advantage of some Cap accouting rules and create a little more Cap Room in 2021 by extending some players this week. For any extension reached prior to the end of the regular season, any signing bonus will be prorated starting with the current 2020 Cap year.
— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) December 31, 2020
I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Sled21 - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?
Katie is usually pretty good when it comes to the money part of players deals. I'm betting she's on it.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - jfkbengals - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?
I believe both Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson did so.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - fredtoast - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 11:51 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't recall the Bengals ever extending someone in the middle of the season, but perhaps that's just me being forgetful?
Carson Palmer got his huge contract extension at the very end of the '05 season.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>For example, if William Jackson III signs a 4-yr ext. this week that includes a $12M SB, the signing bonus will be prorated over the maximum allowable 5 years (since you can include the 2020 Cap Year) instead of 4 years, which would lower WJIII's Cap Hits during the 4-ext years.
— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) December 31, 2020
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
Seems like this would make a lot of sense for Jackson and/or Lawson.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - ochocincos - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 12:15 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Carson Palmer got his huge contract extension at the very end of the '05 season.
Ahh. I just started watching the Bengals during that year's playoff game, so if it happened just before that, I would have missed it.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - RunKijanaRun - 12-31-2020
Whom do you extend? Lawson? Good when healthy, injured a lot. I like WJIII but the board loathes him. Allen? I think he's a capable backup.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Synric - 12-31-2020
The big issue is it takes time to do these contracts slapping one together in just a couple of days won't work. While I've never signed a professional sports contract I have dealt with several mineral related ones and they take months.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Sled21 - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 12:29 PM)Synric Wrote: The big issue is it takes time to do these contracts slapping one together in just a couple of days won't work. While I've never signed a professional sports contract I have dealt with several mineral related ones and they take months.
I'm sure if they are going to do it, they have already been working on it.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 12:28 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Whom do you extend? Lawson? Good when healthy, injured a lot. I like WJIII but the board loathes him. Allen? I think he's a capable backup.
I mean, depending on cap situation...they're both worth extending.
I see Jackson as the best CB on some lists.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 12:32 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm sure if they are going to do it, they have already been working on it.
Yep. And this window didn't just open up this week. It's been open for a while and actually closes after this week.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - fredtoast - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 12:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>For example, if William Jackson III signs a 4-yr ext. this week that includes a $12M SB, the signing bonus will be prorated over the maximum allowable 5 years (since you can include the 2020 Cap Year) instead of 4 years, which would lower WJIII's Cap Hits during the 4-ext years.
— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) December 31, 2020
I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension. I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Nicomo Cosca - 12-31-2020
What about extending Bates early?
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - bfine32 - 12-31-2020
I'd at least offer WJIII something competitive, before he hits the open market.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - THE PISTONS - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 01:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension. I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.
Yeah, I think rollover cash happened with the CBA in the 2010's. The same one that put in the floor. But, you could do an extension and count towards the current years cap.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Sled21 - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 01:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'd at least offer WJIII something competitive, before he hits the open market.
Depends on if he wants to be here. Rumors are he doesn't. We need to dump all the players, like Dunlap, who don't want to be here and replace them with players who do. Jackson, who I like, is not irreplaceable.
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - Nicomo Cosca - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 01:09 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Depends on if he wants to be here. Rumors are he doesn't. We need to dump all the players, like Dunlap, who don't want to be here and replace them with players who do.
Or dump the coaches that are making players not want to be here...
RE: Bengals can create more cap space in 2021, by extending players this week. - jfkbengals - 12-31-2020
(12-31-2020, 01:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know if they were allowed to roll over unused cap space back in 2005, but I think that is the reason they gave Carson that big extension. I think they actually adjusted his '05 salary with unused cap dollars instead of just prorating the signing bonus over a longer period.
You are correct. And this was preferred by Carson. As I recall, he wanted to minimize the impact of his salary by front loading it as much as possible in years that could eliminate dead cap money in future years. I think that was part of the reason he was pissed management tagged Graham and let TJ walk as a free agent.