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RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Brownshoe - 03-13-2021 (03-13-2021, 03:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: Okay, people at a protest turned violent (same people, they were at the speech) by forcing their way into a building and their actions contributed to the death of an officer. They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down. The police officer essentially died from friendly fire. The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there.They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building) RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - hollodero - 03-13-2021 (03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year. I am a foreigner, and as such I have to say that protests turning into riots, while not to be taken lightly for sure, do occur... but what happened at the Capitol was unique and outright spooky. A mob wandering through the halls, calling for Nancy like in a horror movie, breaking into offices, violently altercating with police forces resulting in deaths, and last not least erecting gallows to hang Mike Pence, all those and lots of other frightening scenes are pretty unseen in western democracies and imho more than justify the term insurrection. That it had little chance to succeed does not change that impression. Thaat they did not find any of their targets was luck and a pretty close call. If scenes like this had happened in my country, I'd still be shaking. On the grounds alone that they are unthinkable. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Belsnickel - 03-13-2021 (03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year. Well, what I was reading on the topic said that it was things like bear mace sprayed by the insurrectionists that was the cause. Also, it was an insurrection. It was a violent uprising against the government. (03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down. The police officer essentially died from friendly fire. The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there.They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building) They broke into the building through a locked door. They tried to break through many other barriers. They assaulted officers, stole government property, and erected a gallows across the lawn from the Capitol. Mayor Bowser wanted a light police presence to avoid a scenario like the perceived overreactions over the summer. The problem is that those protesters were actually peaceful while there were a sizeable group in this crowd that had planned violence from the start. You really need to check on your sources for this stuff. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - NATI BENGALS - 03-13-2021 (03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year. I guess I can’t say it jokingly anymore. I will have to say it for real. Never forget 1/6. Right wing terrorists broke in to our capital and looked for our elected leaders with the intent to execute people and overturn our election results. The fact this is being downplayed only 2 months later is god damn ridiculous. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-14-2021 (03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down. That was explained above. (03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The police officer essentially died from friendly fire. "Essentially" is doing a lot of work in that sentence considering he was trying tp push back a mob of people breaking into the building. (03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there. They were so violent they beat officers, destroyed property, stole property and were threatening to kill anyone who still though Trump lost the election and wouldn't overturn it. (03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building) A group literally started toward the Capitol during his speech as he told them to "show strength". And there they joined another group already there. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/12/us/capitol-mob-timeline.html And mind you Trump's speech was the last one in a series of speeches telling his supporters that everything is unfair and they they needed to do something about it. Maybe you didn't know all this. Maybe you ignored it. Maybe you just refuse to believe it. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-15-2021 https://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-who-once-grew-a-hitler-mustache-was-capitol-rioter-investigators-2021-3 Quote:US Army reservist charged in Capitol riot was a Nazi sympathizer who sported a 'Hitler mustache' to work, federal prosecutors reveal RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-15-2021 Two charged with assaulting the officer...but not killing him. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-men-charged-assault-attack-capitol-police-officer-who-later-n1261098?fbclid=IwAR3up5PVeMcxc5v56tkL9KRgGfwyZRsqHHiABXUqAgMsu_kPr_ZQ2iYIUsQ So I guess the insurrection wasn't that bad now...for some. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-18-2021
12 republicans voted against the resolution.
RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Nately120 - 03-18-2021 De-medal the police. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-18-2021 (03-18-2021, 12:09 PM)GMDino Wrote: Something something thin blue line something something. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Belsnickel - 03-19-2021 So this one is fun: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/19/green-beret-capitol-riot/ This is noted as the first (ex-)member of special operations forces to be charged with the attempted insurrection. He is also, supposedly, a current (or maybe former, now) military contractor. What made this of special interest to me is that this is just up the road from me. The guy lives in Fishersville, which is about 20 minutes from me. I was just there, today, in fact. They have him pretty dead to rights when you see the affidavit from the alphabet boys. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-29-2021 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rioters-hugging-kissing-officers-fox-news-1147647/ Quote:The former president went on Fox Thursday night and lied. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-29-2021 (03-29-2021, 01:19 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rioters-hugging-kissing-officers-fox-news-1147647/ Conservatives: BiDeN iS oN tHe MeNtAl DeClInE Conservatives preferred candidate: see above Just ***** wow. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-30-2021 (03-29-2021, 01:25 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Conservatives: BiDeN iS oN tHe MeNtAl DeClInE Boggles the mind doesn't it? RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-30-2021 (03-30-2021, 02:39 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Boggles the mind doesn't it? Nah. Not since someone pointed out the P in GoP means Project. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-30-2021 (03-30-2021, 09:20 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Nah. Not since someone pointed out the P in GoP means Project. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Nately120 - 03-30-2021 Trump watched footage of the Capitol riot and saw a bunch of dudes hugging and kissing? Sounds like he's crazy and kinda gay, bro. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-31-2021 (03-30-2021, 10:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump watched footage of the Capitol riot and saw a bunch of dudes hugging and kissing? Sounds like he's crazy and kinda gay, bro. Yeah, didn't you see it? They were huggin and kissin one cop to death. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-31-2021 (03-31-2021, 08:00 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Yeah, didn't you see it? They were huggin and kissin one cop to death. With a fire extinguisher. RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 04-02-2021 Another "incident", another senseless death. https://apnews.com/article/car-rams-capitol-barricade-add0fea76244f1755344aa856ee64ecd?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow Quote:Car rams into police at Capitol barricade; officer killed They are dumb. I wonder if she tweeted out anything this time?
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