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RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Brownshoe - 03-13-2021

(03-13-2021, 03:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: Okay, people at a protest turned violent (same people, they were at the speech) by forcing their way into a building and their actions contributed to the death of an officer.

Somehow not better to me but whatever makes people enjoy their narrative.

Blue lives matter" and all that.

They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down. The police officer essentially died from friendly fire. The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there.They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building)


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - hollodero - 03-13-2021

(03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year.

I am a foreigner, and as such I have to say that protests turning into riots, while not to be taken lightly for sure, do occur... but what happened at the Capitol was unique and outright spooky. A mob wandering through the halls, calling for Nancy like in a horror movie, breaking into offices, violently altercating with police forces resulting in deaths, and last not least erecting gallows to hang Mike Pence, all those and lots of other frightening scenes are pretty unseen in western democracies and imho more than justify the term insurrection. That it had little chance to succeed does not change that impression. Thaat they did not find any of their targets was luck and a pretty close call.

If scenes like this had happened in my country, I'd still be shaking. On the grounds alone that they are unthinkable.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Belsnickel - 03-13-2021

(03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year.

Well, what I was reading on the topic said that it was things like bear mace sprayed by the insurrectionists that was the cause. Also, it was an insurrection. It was a violent uprising against the government.

(03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down. The police officer essentially died from friendly fire. The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there.They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building)

They broke into the building through a locked door. They tried to break through many other barriers. They assaulted officers, stole government property, and erected a gallows across the lawn from the Capitol. Mayor Bowser wanted a light police presence to avoid a scenario like the perceived overreactions over the summer. The problem is that those protesters were actually peaceful while there were a sizeable group in this crowd that had planned violence from the start.

You really need to check on your sources for this stuff.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - NATI BENGALS - 03-13-2021

(03-13-2021, 02:25 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Everything that I read has been what Belsnickle just wrote. That he died due to the use of chemical irritants from what other police used. Also I think it's pretty a big overreaction to call it an insurrection. Just the same as everyone saying that most of the protests were riots last year.

I guess I can’t say it jokingly anymore. I will have to say it for real.


Never forget 1/6.

Right wing terrorists broke in to our capital and looked for our elected leaders with the intent to execute people and overturn our election results.

The fact this is being downplayed only 2 months later is god damn ridiculous.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-14-2021

(03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They were let into the capitol building. The Mayor knew there was going to be a protest so they told the police to stand down.

That was explained above.

(03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The police officer essentially died from friendly fire.

"Essentially" is doing a lot of work in that sentence considering he was trying tp push back a mob of people breaking into the building.

(03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The protesters were so "violent" they were taking pictures with the security there.

They were so violent they beat officers, destroyed property, stole property and were threatening to kill anyone who still though Trump lost the election and wouldn't overturn it.

(03-13-2021, 04:41 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: They weren't even at the speech like you said, because it started before the speech was even done, and the speech took place further away from the capitol than you would think (a 26 minute walk from the freedom plaza where the speech was to the capitol building)

A group literally started toward the Capitol during his speech as he told them to "show strength". And there they joined another group already there.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/12/us/capitol-mob-timeline.html

And mind you Trump's speech was the last one in a series of speeches telling his supporters that everything is unfair and they they needed to do something about it.

Maybe you didn't know all this. Maybe you ignored it. Maybe you just refuse to believe it.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-15-2021

https://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-who-once-grew-a-hitler-mustache-was-capitol-rioter-investigators-2021-3


Quote:US Army reservist charged in Capitol riot was a Nazi sympathizer who sported a 'Hitler mustache' to work, federal prosecutors reveal


Joshua Zitser 
Mar 13, 2021, 11:35 AM

Court documents published by Politico offer an insight into a Capitol rioter's white supremacist ties.

Hale-Cusanelli worked at a New Jersey naval facility where he held secret-level security clearance.

Investigators found that Hale-Cusanelli's coworkers could recall numerous incidents of racist behavior.

A US Army reservist who is charged with taking part in the Capitol riot was well-known by his co-workers as a "white supremacist," according to new evidence from federal prosecutors.

Among many other revelations, court documents first published by Politico also reveal that Timothy Hale-Cusanelli was a Holocaust denier who shaved his beard into a "Hitler mustache" and regularly praised the Nazis.

The evidence against Hale-Cusanelli resulted from an extensive investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

NCIS special agents interviewed 44 members of the NWS Earle Security Forces, where Hale-Cusanelli worked and held a secret-level security clearance, in a bid to keep him in prison while he awaits trial following his January 15 arrest.


Of the 44 people interviewed,  a majority — 34 — agreed with the description of Hale-Cusanelli as "having extremist or radical views pertaining to the Jewish people, minorities, and women," according to the court documents.

An unnamed Navy Petty Officer stated that the Capitol rioter had said that "Hitler should have finished the job."

One Navy Seamen said that Hale-Cusanelli had once said that "babies born with any deformities or disabilities should be shot in the forehead." He also recalled an incident where he said that if he were a Nazi, he would "kill all the Jews and eat them for breakfast, lunch, and dinner."

A supervisor told investigators that she once had to discipline Hale-Cusanelli for wearing a "Hitler mustache" to work.


The results of these interviews were published as was a rebuttal to a letter of support from Sgt. John Getz. Hale-Cusanelli's supervisor wrote a letter to the court urging them to release him on bond, adding that he was "appalled at how he [Hale-Cusanelli] was slandered in the press in regards to him being a white supremacist."

Prosecutors, however, pointed out that previous statements from Getz contradicted this assertion. He had previously said that Hale-Cusanelli was a "Nazi sympathizer" and a "Holocaust denier."

The Capitol rioter's lawyer argued that his client should not be detained pending trial. He told the court that Hale-Cusanelli is not charged with a crime of violence and is not a Nazi sympathizer, according to the court documents.

Prosecutors dismissed these claims, citing photographic evidence of Hale-Cusanelli sporting a Hitler mustache, numerous racist photos saved on his phone, and a now-deleted YouTube channel of his in which he expressed hateful views.

Hale-Cusanelli is one of the many insurrectionists believed to have been a white supremacist. Groups in and around the Capitol wore regalia associated with far-right, racist, and extremist groups on January 6, Insider's Susie Neilson and Morgan McFall-Johnsen previously reported.

Following the Capitol siege, the FBI had to screen troops from the DC National Guard to ensure that they did not have ties to far-right ideologies. This put the Pentagon under increasing pressure to address white supremacist ties within the US military, Insider's John Haitlwanger said.



RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-15-2021

Two charged with assaulting the officer...but not killing him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-men-charged-assault-attack-capitol-police-officer-who-later-n1261098?fbclid=IwAR3up5PVeMcxc5v56tkL9KRgGfwyZRsqHHiABXUqAgMsu_kPr_ZQ2iYIUsQ

So I guess the insurrection wasn't that bad now...for some.  Whatever


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-18-2021




12 republicans voted against the resolution.

 


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Nately120 - 03-18-2021

De-medal the police.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-18-2021

(03-18-2021, 12:09 PM)GMDino Wrote:


12 republicans voted against the resolution.

 

Something something thin blue line something something. 


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Belsnickel - 03-19-2021

So this one is fun: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/19/green-beret-capitol-riot/

This is noted as the first (ex-)member of special operations forces to be charged with the attempted insurrection. He is also, supposedly, a current (or maybe former, now) military contractor. What made this of special interest to me is that this is just up the road from me. The guy lives in Fishersville, which is about 20 minutes from me. I was just there, today, in fact. They have him pretty dead to rights when you see the affidavit from the alphabet boys.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 03-29-2021

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rioters-hugging-kissing-officers-fox-news-1147647/


Quote:The former president went on Fox Thursday night and lied.


Trump lied about how his supporters involved in the attack on the Capitol posed “zero threat.” Meanwhile, the assault left five dead, including Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick, and injured more than 130 officers.


Trump lied about the mob “hugging and kissing the police and the guards” but just this week, The New York Times stitched-together video from that day that appears to show a coordinated attack against law enforcement that day.


“It was zero threat, right from the start, it was zero threat,” Trump said. “Look, they went in, they shouldn’t have done it. Some of them went in, and they are hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know, they had great relationships.”


The rioters who attempted to stop Congress from certifying President Joe Biden’s election win have prompted a criminal investigation “unprecedented” in scale, says federal prosecutor Michael Sherwin.


Sherwin, who led the investigation until last week, told CBS’ 60 Minutes that there are “over 400 criminal cases” and more than “400 defendants” have been charged thus far. The prosecutor also said that more than 100 of Trump’s mob were charged with assaulting federal officers or local police.



Trump is also the subject of two lawsuits by Democrats regarding the Capitol attack — one from impeachment manager Rep. Eric Swalwell and another filed by Rep. Bennie Thompson — both of which claim the former president violated the Ku Klux Klan act of 1871 and incited the rioters to interfere with the election certification.






RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-29-2021

(03-29-2021, 01:19 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rioters-hugging-kissing-officers-fox-news-1147647/






Conservatives: BiDeN iS oN tHe MeNtAl DeClInE

Conservatives preferred candidate: see above

Just ***** wow.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-30-2021

(03-29-2021, 01:25 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Conservatives: BiDeN iS oN tHe MeNtAl DeClInE

Conservatives preferred candidate: see above

Just ***** wow.

Boggles the mind doesn't it?


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-30-2021

(03-30-2021, 02:39 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Boggles the mind doesn't it?

Nah. Not since someone pointed out the P in GoP means Project.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-30-2021

(03-30-2021, 09:20 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Nah. Not since someone pointed out the P in GoP means Project.

Smack


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Nately120 - 03-30-2021

Trump watched footage of the Capitol riot and saw a bunch of dudes hugging and kissing? Sounds like he's crazy and kinda gay, bro.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - Tiger Teeth - 03-31-2021

(03-30-2021, 10:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump watched footage of the Capitol riot and saw a bunch of dudes hugging and kissing?  Sounds like he's crazy and kinda gay, bro.

Yeah, didn't you see it?  They were huggin and kissin one cop to death.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - BigPapaKain - 03-31-2021

(03-31-2021, 08:00 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Yeah, didn't you see it?  They were huggin and kissin one cop to death.

With a fire extinguisher.


RE: Storming Of The Capitol Building - GMDino - 04-02-2021

Another "incident", another senseless death.

https://apnews.com/article/car-rams-capitol-barricade-add0fea76244f1755344aa856ee64ecd?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow


Quote:Car rams into police at Capitol barricade; officer killed
By MICHAEL BALSAMO and COLLEEN LONG18 minutes ago



[url=https://apnews.com/article/car-rams-capitol-barricade-add0fea76244f1755344aa856ee64ecd/gallery/a357a6ae39df4e1b9654cb88fdf72104][/url]WASHINGTON (AP) — A Capitol Police officer was killed Friday after a man rammed a car into two officers at a barricade outside the U.S. Capitol and then emerged wielding a knife, law enforcement officials said.

The suspect died at a hospital, officials said. Both officers were hospitalized, and one of them “succumbed to his injuries,” Capitol Police Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman told reporters.


Pittman did not identify the slain officer or suspect. Authorities said that there was no longer an ongoing threat and that the attack did not appear to be related to terrorism. There was also no immediate connection apparent between Friday’s crash and the Jan. 6 riot.


The crash and shooting happened at a security checkpoint near the Capitol as Congress is on recess. It comes as the Washington region remains on edge nearly three months after a mob of armed insurrectionists stormed the Capitol as Congress was voting to certify Joe Biden’s presidential win.

Five people died in the Jan. 6 riot, including Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who was among a badly outnumbered force trying to fight off insurrectionists who supported former President Donald Trump’s bid to overturn the election. Authorities installed a tall perimeter fence around the Capitol and for months restricted traffic along the roads closest to the building, but they have begun pulling back some of the emergency measures in recent weeks.


There was no immediate connection apparent between Jan. 6 and Friday’s crash. Pittman said the suspect did not appear to have been on police radar. But the incident underscores that the building and campus remain potential targets for violence. It occurred about 100 yards (91 meters) from the entrance of the building on the Senate side of the Capitol.


The security checkpoint is typically used by senators and staff on weekdays, but lawmakers are away for recess. Fencing that prevented vehicular traffic near that area was recently removed.


The officials initially said the suspect was being taken to the hospital in critical condition. One of the officers who was injured was taken by police car to the hospital; the other was being transported by emergency medical crews, the officials said.


The U.S. Capitol complex was placed on lockdown after the shooting and staff were told they could not enter or exit buildings. Video showed National Guard troops mobilizing near the area of the crash.


Video posted online showed a dark colored sedan crashed against a vehicle barrier and a police K-9 inspecting the vehicle. Law enforcement and paramedics could be seen caring for at least one unidentified individual.



President Biden had just departed the White House for Camp David when the incident occurred. As customary, he was traveling with a member of the National Security Council Staff who was expected to brief him on the incident.

They are dumb.  I wonder if she tweeted out anything this time?