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RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - fredtoast - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 01:40 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: when the chance of actually dying from covid is zero.
The families of over half a million people disagree with you.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Nately120 - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:22 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: I agree partially.
I absolutely believe Covid was overblown for political purposes.
I only believe oppressive from a big box store fine, but lots of small businesses must close and possibly forever.
Sinister motives, not so much, other than overblown for political purposes.
I guess. I don't think any amount of covid or no covid is going to do much to stop wal mart and amazon from taking over every aspect of retail. We can throw out the mask restrictions and raise taxes on the godly rich, but the march will continue.
Remember, we aren't all that far removed from a time when less than 50% of the country being employed as farmers seemed absurd. Stuff changes...maybe that's why people die, we'd just pine too hard for the way things was.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I guess. I don't think any amount of covid or no covid is going to do much to stop wal mart and amazon from taking over every aspect of retail. We can throw out the mask restrictions and raise taxes on the godly rich, but the march will continue.
Remember, we aren't all that far removed from a time when less than 50% of the country being employed as farmers seemed absurd. Stuff changes...maybe that's why people die, we'd just pine too hard for the way things was.
I think from a 30k foot perspective we are starting to witness why Democracies (Democratic Republic) only last so long. Once you are truly divided and half start to believe their own Country is shit, it is all over.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Nately120 - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The families of over half a million people disagree with you.
I rather cynically said quite a ways back that covid may be this generation's Vietnam. It's an overblown "no biggie" until we hang with it long enough that everyone eventually knows someone who was affected by it and then maybe it becomes real.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The families of over half a million people disagree with you.
That's emotional. The math is: 500000/350000000=.001428
Disclaimer..........I suck at math!
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Nately120 - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:47 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: That's emotional. The math is: 500000/350000000=.001428
Disclaimer..........I suck at math!
That's still a lot more than get killed by terrorists or Mexican caravan murderers. People don't use math when it comes to fear. I know this because I live in the boonies and people around here think driving drunk is no big deal but dangerous Muslims are right around every corner.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - GMDino - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:47 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: That's emotional. The math is: 500000/350000000=.001428
Disclaimer..........I suck at math!
And statistics.
To wit...using your failed math:
The math for people dying in car crashes if Tiger Woods is driving is: 0/350000000 = 0! He's like the world's safest driver!
The math for people dying if a two planes crash into the Twin Towers is: 2977/350000000 = 0.000850571% Why are we worried about terrorists?!?
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: And statistics.
To wit...using your failed math:
The math for people dying in car crashes if Tiger Woods is driving is: 0/350000000 = 0! He's like the world's safest driver!
The math for people dying if a two planes crash into the Twin Towers is: 2977/350000000 = 0.000850571% Why are we worried about terrorists?!?
So tell me then, what are the odds of dying from Covid?
An overall average.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - GMDino - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 03:12 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: So tell me then, what are the odds of dying from Covid?
An overall average.
In the US 1.78%
1.9% and dropping to 1.7 over the last month as a rolling average.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-7-day
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 03:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: In the US 1.78%
1.9% and dropping to 1.7 over the last month as a rolling average.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-7-day
Thank you.
That is based off of cases and deaths correct? Not the fact that not everyone will get Covid or have it but never get tested because of no symptoms?
I'm not buying that every person out of 350M has a 2% chance of dying. People would be dropping left and right around me. That's 2 out of every 100!
That's a lot more than 500k.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - GMDino - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 03:31 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Thank you.
That is based off of cases and deaths correct? Not the fact that not everyone will get Covid or have it but never get tested because of no symptoms?
I'm not buying that every person out of 350M has a 2% chance of dying. People would be dropping left and right around me. That's 2 out of every 100!
That's a lot more than 500k.
(02-24-2021, 02:47 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: That's emotional.
Disclaimer..........I suck at math!
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 03:33 PM)GMDino Wrote:
I don't see any answers to my questions in there. I get it, your poking fun at me, whatever. Can you explain and answer my questions?
Are you saying 1.7-1.9 out of every 100 Americans are dropping dead?
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - fredtoast - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 02:47 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: That's emotional.
No. It is real. A close friend of my family died from it.
You get your panties in a huge wad over a few hundred thousand abortions a year but then say half a million deaths from covid are meaningless. Typical right-wing hypocrite.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - SunsetBengal - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 12:42 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Population density has a big role in spreading the virus. 43% of the population of New York lives in one city (8.3 million of 19.4 million).
Big deal, you act like the coastal regions of Florida aren't densely populated?
How many people live in coastal Florida?
Of the total population of 19.6 million in Florida, approximately 15 million people live in coastal portions of the state. Coastal Florida employs 5.9 million people annually, earning a total of $275.3 billion. This equates to almost $688 billion in gross domestic product.
Reference: coast.noaa.gov/states/florida.html
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Mickeypoo - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 03:52 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No. It is real. A close friend of my family died from it.
You get your panties in a huge wad over a few hundred thousand abortions a year but then say half a million deaths from covid are meaningless. Typical right-wing hypocrite.
The whole "my body" is just comical. I just didn't realize mothers never separated from their children and they were just brainless appendages attached to the mom the rest of her life. If you are cool with dismembering a live baby and sucking it out with a vacuum cause "my body" that's on you bro.
A close friend of your family died. I get it. It's sad and i'm sorry it happened. People die every day. I watched my mom wither away until she stopped breathing from cancer and it happened in 7 weeks. Suck it up buttercup! Life sucks sometimes.
It does not mean gov't has a right to destroy small businesses in the guise of safety while the big box stores magically stay open and we run around like dumbasses with masks on our faces all day pretending like we are saving the world. And that's not including the lunatics who want you to wear a mask outside!
Bottom line...........500k out of 350M have died in 14-15 months time. it's sad. Get at me when that number get's in the double digit millions in half that time. That will definitely get my attention.
I would bet money that far more than 500k have been hurt, possibly for a lifetime because of the lockdowns and restrictions. I bet millions to 10's of millions. Child abuse up, suicides up, depression up, stress up, financial hardships up, businesses lost, etc, etc.
655k die from heart disease each year. Let's ban "bad" food, ciggys, alcohol and have gov't mandated exercise cause safety. I am actually surprised that the number isn't much higher than that with the enormous amount of out of shape, fat slobs we have running around this country.
And i'm not right wing just because of my opinion on one subject. Don't put me in one of your stupid little liberal boxes. I am not in any box nor do I vote party line anything. They all suck. I have beliefs that span liberal to conservative.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Nately120 - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 04:59 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: 655k die from heart disease each year. Let's ban "bad" food, ciggys, alcohol and have gov't mandated exercise cause safety. I am actually surprised that the number isn't much higher than that with the enormous amount of out of shape, fat slobs we have running around this country.
Didn't Michelle Obama attempt to tackle this and people suddenly had to act like garbage public school cafeteria rolls and instant mashed potatoes were ultra patriotic?
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - SunsetBengal - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 05:19 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Didn't Michelle Obama attempt to tackle this and people suddenly had to act like garbage public school cafeteria rolls and instant mashed potatoes were ultra patriotic?
Well, it is in line with "my body, my choice"..
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - GMDino - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 04:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Big deal, you act like the coastal regions of Florida aren't densely populated?
How many people live in coastal Florida?
Of the total population of 19.6 million in Florida, approximately 15 million people live in coastal portions of the state. Coastal Florida employs 5.9 million people annually, earning a total of $275.3 billion. This equates to almost $688 billion in gross domestic product.
Reference: coast.noaa.gov/states/florida.html
Florida population:
353.4 people per square mile
In terms of population density, Florida has a surface area of 65,755 square miles (170,304 square kilometers). Based on estimates, that equates to 353.4 people per square mile, (136.4 per square kilometer) and that makes it the eighth most densely populated state in the US.
New York Population:
27,000 people per square mile
New York has the highest population density of any major city in the United States, with over 27,000 people per square mile. Over 3 million of New York City's residents are foreign-born; over one-quarter arrived in 2000 or later. Nearly 2 million New Yorkers are under the age of 18.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - SunsetBengal - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 06:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Florida population:
353.4 people per square mile
In terms of population density, Florida has a surface area of 65,755 square miles (170,304 square kilometers). Based on estimates, that equates to 353.4 people per square mile, (136.4 per square kilometer) and that makes it the eighth most densely populated state in the US.
New York Population:
27,000 people per square mile
New York has the highest population density of any major city in the United States, with over 27,000 people per square mile. Over 3 million of New York City's residents are foreign-born; over one-quarter arrived in 2000 or later. Nearly 2 million New Yorkers are under the age of 18.
Let's go with an Apples to Apples comparison. Most of Florida's population is densely gathered near the coast, 43% of the State of NY is in NYC. Because when you look at population density State to State, NY ranks 7th to Florida's 8th.
RE: Opinion: DeSantis 2024? - Belsnickel - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 07:07 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Let's go with an Apples to Apples comparison. Most of Florida's population is densely gathered near the coast, 43% of the State of NY is in NYC. Because when you look at population density State to State, NY ranks 7th to Florida's 8th.
There truly is no apples-to-apples comparison between Florida and New York. Climate, density, demographics, all these things muck that up.